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racedo 26th Sep 2011 22:30

Report is B/S as 1800 vehicles costing £3 Billion means average cost is £1.67 million each................... MOD purchasing ain't that great but

rh200 26th Sep 2011 22:42


The gear isn't particularly offensive in nature, so not a particular drama
Does that really matter, considering the ease at which a Toyota can be modified to carry anything on its back over there:).

TBM-Legend 26th Sep 2011 23:52


The Australians wouldn't even consider repatriating vehicles from overseas.

well we did from Vietnam/Timor/Malaysia/PNG/Solomons

TBM-Legend 26th Sep 2011 23:54


The Australians wouldn't even consider repatriating vehicles from overseas.

well we did from Vietnam/Timor/Malaysia/PNG/Solomons. An extensive decontamination process is used.

Give the stuff in A/Stan to the ANA to play with...

Buster Hyman 27th Sep 2011 00:45

Left a lot of kit at Dunkirk if I recall correctly.... :p

NutLoose 27th Sep 2011 00:58

As to who is going to take over the Aldershot sizeed secret base, there was some cynical remarks on that one on the Channel 4 new series Fighting on the front line on Sunday that covered the Chinook and Apache operations, in case you did not see it, it is here, thought it was put together rather well.


Fighting on the Frontline - 4oD - Channel 4

As for the US leaving stuff behind, didn't the US offer to sell all of the chattels in the quarters and the heated runway at Brize to UK PLC who declined thinking they would get them anyway.... so the US dropped a blade on the back of a caterpillar and went up and down the side of the runway and ripped out the heating element wiring....... also they dumped all the furniture and US fridges etc in a big pit crushed and buried them??

Pontius Navigator 27th Sep 2011 07:06

Historically it depends.

Where the country is a friendly country then the kit is parked up or handed over. In Egypt much of the 8th Army kit was parked up at Tel El Kebir. It was then in situ until such time as it was obsolete/fell to pieces/thieved by the indigenous population. Technically it was a forward holding war reserve.

In the mid-50s a Hastings aircraft was pranged and categoried Cat 5 and towed to the bone yard. Then came Nasser and it was decided we could not leave a state of the art transport aircraft behind. Rather than destroy what was left it was recovered and flown home. It was eventually converted in to a T5.

Willard Whyte 27th Sep 2011 07:36


...perfectly serviceable Bedford trucks being driven over cliffs when the UK mil pulled out of Aden
One hopes they were pushed, not driven...

alisoncc 27th Sep 2011 08:30


One hopes they were pushed, not driven...
First driving lesson for some of the locals. :}

Solo of course.

jamesdevice 27th Sep 2011 09:08

It won't be the first time a British army has left Afghanistan without its equipment

PPRuNeUser0139 27th Sep 2011 09:38


I'd drive a mastiff home for the adventure!
I'm sure if they offered the chance to drive them home, fuel cards supplied, they would get plenty of takers.
I'm with you Tourist..!:ok:

rh200 27th Sep 2011 10:04

Could hold a fire sale on ebay, no reserve, local pick up.

L J R 27th Sep 2011 10:26

The Reaper was (is) an UOR - will it be left there as well, as I cannot see it holding over the Salisbury Plains soon....

Whenurhappy 27th Sep 2011 10:37

Safe to say it would cripple teh defence budget if all the UORs went into core. Still seems a waste, though.

My father, injured during the war, had a civilian job to make US Army vehicles that had been left in Auckland serviceable...so they could be driven on to barges, taken outside the 3 NM limit and pushed over the side. Though, he led me to beleive, not all of them made their way to the barges. We had some odd pieces of machinery in our workshop, including the seat armour from a Curtis P-40 Warhawk/Kittyhawk, which made an admirable arc welding table, as well as lots of Dodge truck spares.:{

goudie 27th Sep 2011 11:09


Left a lot of kit at Dunkirk if I recall correctly....
As did the German Army, a few years later, at the Falaise Pocket!

Nutloose. You're correct about the Yanks burying all the white goods etc. at Brize. They didn't want any mony for them but apparently, Customs & Excise demanded import tax on the items, if they left them behind in the MQ's!

Pontius Navigator 27th Sep 2011 11:22


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 6720700)
As for the US leaving stuff behind, didn't the US offer to sell all of the chattels in the quarters and the heated runway at Brize to UK PLC who declined thinking they would get them anyway.... so the US dropped a blade on the back of a caterpillar and went up and down the side of the runway and ripped out the heating element wiring

I believe they left the fuel system behind - full of fuel. Didn't it all leak out 40 years later?

cazatou 27th Sep 2011 11:49

jamesdevice

If you are thinking of the episode that I think you are - then the only survivor of the British Forces to reach safety was Surgeon Reynolds.

Marks out of 10?

Whenurhappy 27th Sep 2011 12:20

OK - name of the Surgeon's horse then?

Biggus 27th Sep 2011 12:29

caz - marks out of 10.....zero. James Henry Reyolds was the surgeon at Rourke's Drift.

Wrong continent and war.....

I think you mean William Brydon! Actually he was not the only European survivor, and since his horse apparently dropped dead when reaching Jalalabad it was probably called "dinner"!

Whenurhappy 27th Sep 2011 12:47

I was going to add 'Main Course'!


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