For Sale, Airworthy EE Lightnings x3.. Buccaneers x3.. Hunters x4
 

Anyone feeling flush?, the South African based fleet is up for sale

See

Thunder City Aircraft Company - Historical Military Jets - GoIndustry DoveBid

The question is can you take them for a test 'drive'. :E

Yes, test drives are on offer - I had a free 10-minuter in one of the Buccs in 2008 (it's a long story) - but not out of Thunder City sadly any more, so you will have to truck it somewhere first!

Foldie :(

I understand that Thunder City is no longer allowed to operate the aircraft and, reading between the lines, I think it may not be permitted for any buyer to fly them out

Perhaps the millionaire aviation enthusiast who owns the Red Bull collection, operating out of Salzburg, might buy one or two of them for static exhibition? The only ones that might fly again would be Hunters IMO.

Some say the Mk2A was the best.

I'm not really sure why Mr. Red Bull would even contemplate buying [and shipping] a Lightning all the way from S.A. for static exhibition, let alone the suggested two. Not quite sure what he would gain by that. There are numerous Lightnings in the U.K. that he could probably buy much, much cheaper, but I don't think Dieter is interested in aged static Lightnings. [So glad I went to S.A. and saw them fly a few years ago. Nothing lasts forever!!!] I agree with you as regards the Hunters.

I did say one OR two. I take your point that it wouldn't do much for his collection but he has got enough money to buy one and think it is one F1 race's operating costs of his racing team!

Just a shame I did not win the 166 million on the euro lottery or I know what I would be buying right now:ok:

newt
 

I didn't know you had such sentiments over a couple of second-hand Buccs!!

But their single engine performance is probably good enough for you!!

for sale
three slightly used carrier capable air-to-air refueling tankers
Ideal for supporting F-35 or similar
Easy to fly, parts easy to find. Large pool of experienced pilots available

Do not forget there is a Frightning Tbird close to flying States side too, might be an opportunity if finances are there to add to the fleet.

I do hope that it will soon be possible to read about British military aircraft in something other than the past tense.

Mark....Mark....?

If you mean Mach, after Professor Ernst himself.....

Absolute load of b..:mad:..s

Something to use on our new aircraft carriers?
 

If the MOD went for the Buccaneers, at least we would have something to fly off those new carriers! Landing might be a bit trickier

Not much hope of that, Phil_R. Once the ageing Vickers FunBus is retired, the only active British military aircraft left in the RAF will be the Hawk, a handful of corgi-carriers and brace of Islanders..... Everything else being either multi-national or 'murrkan.....:\

newt

Well said - and who would you have as your navigator? :p

...A fare paying passenger.

...100 KG of Fuel.

....an iPhone with a cool APP.

....Playmate of the Month.


Make your choice..They all have benefits.

I think we've already got something. Certain folk have been flying a big jet around these parts in recent weeks that's wearing FAA colours and is rumoured to be carrier capable.

It's all a bit hush hush, but I'm led to believe it's called....now what was it....oh yes, the Sea Vixen. :}

Only short arses need apply :p

Sounds like the plot for a new Wilbur Smith Novel 'Bomber Cowboys'?

An African dicator (let's call him Ebagum) is deposed after his palace is bombed by ancient aircrew flying a pair of Buccaneers, with another giving AAR support to a Lightning providing top cover - and some Hunters generally blowing $hit up?

Almost reminiscent of this (don't click if you don't like robust dialogue):


"This is an attack against Rhodesian dissidents!"

"This is an attack against Rhodesian dissidents!"

Hah!

That was an attack in defence of an abhorrent, unjust, illegal apartheid regime that was an international pariah.

Some would say better than the present incumbent.

@Pr00ne

Do you believe the current regime is better? From the apparent tone of your comment I must believe that you do. I really do hope I have misunderstood.

You mean the government of Robert Mugabe!!!! :hmm:

Roland Pulfrew,

Nope.

hval,

No. I consider Mugabe to be equally, if not more as abhorrent as the previous regime. The fact that he is a corrupt evil despot does not in any way justify or condone the actions or policies of the previous illegal, racist, elitist abhorrent Government.

Except of course that the current is definitely more racist, more elitist and more abhorrent. But it's OK because they all have the vote now - as long as you aren't murdered for voting for the wrong party.

Back on topic...

So, is the sale a direct result of the sad loss a year or so back? Did the company have their license taken away, or has it simply lapsed?

Indeed Roly! The absurdity of NIBMAR and Wislon's attitude towards Southern Rhodesia was an utter scandal.

Once one of the richest nations in Africa, Southern Rhodesia has been ruined by stupid, anti-colonialist attitudes which encouraged greedy tribal despots to ruin the whole nation. Because bleeding heart liberal socialists :yuk: let them go ahead, worried more about how the world would view them, rather than whether the nation would ever see any benefit.

"Indeed Roly! The absurdity of NIBMAR and Wislon's attitude towards Southern Rhodesia was an utter scandal."


Oh come on! The utter scandal was the elitist white minority rule in a land that enabled a small white minority to grow enormously wealthy on tobacco cultivation whilst denying even the most basic democratic rights to the vast majority of the population merely because of the colour of their skin.

It has undoubtedly been ruined, that is so true, but it was the ludicrous UDI and racist policies that created the vacuum that allowed Mugabe to do what he has done.

Judging from the riots in London recently....perhaps it is time for the Black population there to overthrow White Rule in Blighty....dragging innocent citizens from a car and shooting them dead and all. Least ways that is the way it is being sold to masses! After all they have been kept from assimilating the culture by means of denying them employment, housing, education and probably the vote as well. Why else would there be such unrest in the ghettos?

SASless,


Drop your racist nonsense!

There's all colours and creeds out on the streets of London, not just black folk. Sorry to disappoint.

Oh, and from the initial reports on Thursday nights shooting, it seems the only people shooting people in cars are the Met Police!

Gosh Proone (I spelled yer name right but pprune here does not like that spelling for some reason...and I cannot edit my post to make it right).....I wuz standing up for the poor oppressed folk as you were....how does that make me racist? You accused Whites in Rhodesia of being racist...now me...are you the only non-racist in your view?

Complete and utter liberal socialist cr@p - 'democratic rights' indeed! Southern Rhodesia was the breadbasket of Africa and everyone benefited until bleeding heart socialists poisoned the country with their utopian racist dogma.

BEagle,


Read your history and drop this pathetic defence of the indefencible.

"Everyone' benefited? Yeah right...

This must be one of the best and biggest thread-creeps for some time? Where art thou Newt?

All,

Pr00ne does have a point. Every human has a right to democracy, irrespective of race, colour or creed.

Unfortunately I suspect Pr00ne has never been to Africa, where the country is full of greedy, mass murdering persons. Pr00ne, I lived and worked all over Africa, in small teams. I saw hell on earth. All of it caused by black Africans. Historically, black Africans have caused each other much harm, even worse than anything white Europeans ever did.

It was always obvious what Mugabe and his cronies were going to do. The previous white government did not kill the hundreds of thousands/ millions that Mugabe has. The whites did not destroy the economy of Rhodesia; but Mugabe has managed to destroy the economy of Zimbabwe. Mugabe, backed by Liberal British are responsible for incredible numbers of deaths and suffering.

hval, how right you are. But such truths won't change the Utopian beliefs of champagne socialists.

The UK's shameful complicity in letting Mugabe and his thugs destroy Southern Rhodesia is an utter disgrace.

"Every human has a right to democracy, irrespective of race, colour or creed."

Democracy is very much a European construct which never evolved anywhere else in the world. For most of teh globe the standard political system is a form of dictatorship, either on a local tribal scale, or on a national (racial) scale.
Individual "rights" didn't exist as a concept in most places: you were simply a cog in the wheel of the system. Democracy as a concept is alien to most parts of the world
All the white Rhodesians did was apply the existing tribal ruling systems to the benefit of the white tribes over the rest. Now you have Mugabe's boys doing the same for THEIR own benefit. However Mugabe & Co don't have the ability to make it work. They're too thick, too bigoted, and too opposed to the non-Mugabe supporting tribes

I think you are largely correct. If you think about it for a moment the "white tribe" were all people with an education and a cultural background of rather highly organised societies and it would have been hard for them not to be utterly dominant.

It would be hard for them not to want to control the situation in Zimbabwe until a few more people had adapted to modern life and by that I don't just mean education but all other practices which are a function of how your parents and family lived. You are only going to have dictators and peasants if you don't manage to build a big middle class.

There had to be a crossing point and it happened although probably much too early because the place wasn't ready to deal with a guy like Mugabe - not enough people living in towns (where opposition started), not enough people with an interest in stability.

My British history isn't all that great but I doubt this country sprang into existence fully formed. In fact I seem to remember that at one point only land owners could vote and before that were Kings and I think what's left out is that maybe Kings happen because people are generally poor and unorganised rather than the other way around. i.e. you can't have a democracy in a land of subsistence farmers.

Hence I think the white Rhodesians (of which I am the younger offspring) were rather like the Romans in Britain. Zimbabwe's legal system is based on Roman Dutch law - quite interesting how this virus gets transmitted to one bunch of barbarians who wise up and transmit it onwards.

The left believed Mugabe was good and for them to pretend now that they didn't is very two faced. The cry that Rhodesians were bad too seems particularly pathetic to me. Rhodesians did what they could with the situation including stopping the Ndebele from terrorising Mr Mugabe's Shona and I am going to choose to believe that because of them and their fight to delay Mugabe, there is still hope for my home.

Finally, thanks for posting the Green Leader link.

It did not help, brought up the spectre on no manual reversion, which is what the UK CAA has been preaching for many a year. Top that off with the recession and the writing was sadly on the wall.