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Lonewolf_50 13th Feb 2012 21:21

thow:
Thanks for the history lesson. :ok: It showcases how big a load of liars they are in Buenos Aires. Hadn't realized about the offers in the 50's.

How sad. :(

As to Penn: arrggh, how embarassing to have him shoot of his mouth again whilst devoid of a clue. Oh well, what does one expect from people who are paid millions to play make believe, as a career? :hmm:

Airborne Aircrew 13th Feb 2012 21:22

Ahhhhhhhhhh..... Sean Penn... The world's most irrelevant man...

500N 13th Feb 2012 21:24

Maybe someone should tell Sean, being an American that before commenting on the UK / Falklands, he should get the US to clean up it's act in regards to invading other countries and a few other things.

I notice this in the article "The Oscar-nominated Penn has long been a friend of South American nationalism, visiting both Venezuela's Hugo Chávez and Cuba's"


AA
Agree.

A classic case of a B Grade actor having to use other avenues to keep in the limelight.

Lonewolf_50 13th Feb 2012 21:27

500N, he ought to stop spouting off about things he's ignorant of.

America's various wars (no, they've nothing to do with "colonialism") and why the 1982 war over the Falklands ought to be the last, aren't related topics.

It's far more related to how Iraq's invasion of Kuwait was opposed by the US:

Oh, wait, wasn't Sean an apologist for Saddam?

At least he's consistent ... consistently wrong.

thowman 13th Feb 2012 22:42

So what is Puerto Rico, if it's not an overseas possession?

One of the many conspiracies doing the rounds at the moment among the more fanatical Argentines at another popular messaging site beginning with T is that the Britsh sent a message via Pope JP2 that the British would use a WE177 nuclear weapon on the city of Cordoba delivered by Vulcan if they didn't withdraw from the Falklands. :ugh:

Milo Minderbinder 13th Feb 2012 23:13

"So what is Puerto Rico, if it's not an overseas possession?"

Or Guam, surely thats a colonial anachronistic overseas possession if anything is?
Or how about the so-called "United States Minor Outlying Islands," such as Wake and Midway, most of which had prior claims (usually Spanish) before the USA annexed them?
It would seem the Monroe doctrine opposes European rule of American states, but does not prevent USA rule of Pacific territories closer to Asia than Anerica

500N 13th Feb 2012 23:24

lonewolf

I was referring to everything the US seems to do, including what you said which was one of the things I was referring to as well as what thowman and Milo were commenting on.

Regardless of the reasons, you could even extend it to the US Invasion of Grenada if you really wanted to,a Commonwealth realm !

stilton 13th Feb 2012 23:41

TEEJ,


Interesting documentary but I am a little puzzled as to why this Gunner would feel badly he shot down that Argy A4, possibly killing the Pilot.


It was kill or be killed wasn't it ?

Capt Pit Bull 14th Feb 2012 07:01


The Falklands are currently a British Overseas Territory, and as such I don't see a problem flying the Red Ensign when putting into South American ports, however I can see your point of view.
I note from this mornings news that the Argentine Confederation of Transport Workers has decided to boycott all British flagged vessels or any flags of convenience used by 'british pirates'.

So, as I said, acquiescing to the first round of harrassment by re-flagging simply invites more.

South America is an important emerging market for several key industries in the UK. We cannot afford to be harassed like this; Kirchner's whipping up of Mercosur is a major economic attack against us and should be viewed as such.

ORAC 14th Feb 2012 07:29


Or how about the so-called "United States Minor Outlying Islands," such as Wake and Midway, most of which had prior claims (usually Spanish) before the USA annexed them?
And the coup d'etat deposing the Queen of Hawaii and it's annexation by the USA......

Buster Hyman 14th Feb 2012 07:50

Is Sean Penn the Jane Fonda of our time?

RUCAWO 14th Feb 2012 08:01

Oh dear Mr Penn has an open facebook page :E

Buster Hyman 14th Feb 2012 08:08


Oh dear Mr Penn has an open FacePPRuNe page :E
Sorted... :E

Dunky 14th Feb 2012 08:20


Is Sean Penn the Jane Fonda of our time?
He's not that good an actor, or as good looking, but I know what you mean :)

Milo Minderbinder 14th Feb 2012 08:44

they're both related to King Cnut if you see what I mean

alemaobaiano 14th Feb 2012 09:47

pb

I don't know how complete the report that you read was, but having seen the press release from the CATT, signed by a certain Sr. Omar Viviani, leader of the taxi-drivers union and Argentina's very own Red Robbo, this is obviously a political statement. Someone in the Casa Rosada said jump, CATT simply asked how high.

The "boycott" will apply to all vessels flying the Red Ensign, FI flag, or any flag from Bermuda, the Bahamas, Panama, Cyprus, Malta and a few other places.

The "boycott" will also apply to aircraft, so that's the BA flight to Buenos Aires off the menu.

The statement also refers to Argentina as a peace-loving nation, ignoring a certain invasion and a separate long-running territorial dispute with Chile.

Nobody has any concrete ideas, or even plans, as to how the "boycott" will work or when it will come into effect, nor do they have any idea how many of their members will actual go along with the "boycott", after all nobody bothered to ask those very members. This organisation doesn't even represent all port workers, so what disruption they are capable of causing is open for debate. You might have problems getting a taxi if you a wearing a Union Jack t-shirt and kiss-me-quick hat, but even then I suspect that economic reality will triumph.

Expect one highly publicised event, to grab headlines, and then watch as this idea fades into obscurity.

As a large part of the world's merchant fleet is flagged in nations like Panama and Bermuda who would suffer most if this "boycott" went ahead?


South America is an important emerging market for several key industries in the UK. We cannot afford to be harassed like this; Kirchner's whipping up of Mercosur is a major economic attack against us and should be viewed as such.
And the UK is a major market for South America too, hence the lack of any effective support for Argentina. She can't even whip up a majority of her own people, let alone MERCOSUR.

Just out of curiosity, what exactly do you propose?

TTFN

Dengue_Dude 14th Feb 2012 09:55


Is Sean Penn the Jane Fonda of our time?
Nope, she had nice tits . . .

Actually I think this may bounce back on Argentina, this sort of endorsement from 'actors' is often a fleeting thing because they have a different agenda.

Let's face it, he has no credibility - perhaps that's where they are similar.

sitigeltfel 14th Feb 2012 12:09

Penn is obviously suffering from a severe degree of confusion when he rants about Britains "colonisation" of the Falklands. If he feels so strongly about colonisation, maybe he and his family should just http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...s/censored.gif off back to Ireland and leave the Americas to the natives.

BEagle 14th Feb 2012 12:12

Dengue_Dude, I would tend to agree with the accuracy of your anatomical assessment!

RUCAWO 14th Feb 2012 12:35


Penn is obviously suffering from a severe degree of confusion when he rants about Britains "colonisation" of the Falklands. If he feels so strongly about colonisation, maybe he and his family should just http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...s/censored.gif off back to Ireland and leave the Americas to the natives.
We don't want him :E


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