CG, did you actually read Furnace's post?

Routine tour my armpit. If it was routine, it would be for 6 months not six weeks and he wouldnt be given permission to go home for his granny's party either. I thought he wanted be treated the same as everyone else?


:E there goes my knighthood!

all aircrew posts in MPa are 4/6 weeks, so he is no different:ok:

loathe as i am to defend a crab (or guardsman when he wants to wear a uniform that doesn't look like its from Primark...), is it not the case that SAR crabs only do 6 weeks down there as a matter of routine?

The Daily Mash - William to appease Argentina with Nazi uniform

:D

Civilians nearly always struggle with service humour :E

Okay,,I stand corrected but, 6 weeks is not a deployment but a detachment! The hotels in MPA are obviously not up to the mark!



































:E

Sooo when does a detachment become a deployment?

SIX WEEKS?? I bet Krueger Flap has spent more time on one wave when he deployed on his small frigate. .:ok:

En-route to the Falklands ;)

Thread drift.....Brilliant!

Just when I've got used to glugging on a decent Argentinian at mealtimes... They go and remove the facade of being a decent modern country with the recent pictures of the 'Protests' against HRH's penguin spotting. Police stand idly by, as masked men - all of a 'certain age' deface british businesses. - are people still fooled by this 'mock outrage' nonsense? Grow up.

Mind, It's one step up from the Invincible photograph that the kids crayoned in for the News broadcasts about 30 years ago.

.....glugging on a decent Argentinian....:eek:

Are you trying to tell us something? ;)

Falkand Island Invasion Inevitable?
 

I am beginning to come around to believing that there could be an attempted Argentinian invasion of the Falkland Islands.

The Argentinian political system appears to be putting itself in to a situation where there will be no option but to attempt an invasion of the Falklands. I also see that Argentina is building up the Falkland Islands as not being Argentina v The Falkand Islands / The UK, but South America v The UK.

Has President Cristina Kirchner already started the war, via politics? She is certainly bullying the Falkand Islanders, with the assistance of neighbouring countries. There are/ were plans of a "fisherman's invasion", where fisherman plant flags on the Falklands & South Georgia apparently.

Argentina may not have the military might, but then that depends on what has been happening behind the scenes.

The other problem is that if Argentina are seen as the aggressors will they lose out politically? I suspect that in South America they will not. I also suspect that the USA will not care one way or the other politically. Globally how ever how will it be perceived? Most nations, I suspect will be glad that "perfidious Albion" will have been put in its place.

Will the USA provide the UK with any support this time around?

hval,

"I am beginning to come around to believing that there could be an attempted Argentinian invasion of the Falkland Islands."

How? No amphibious assets, a cash strapped military, a military that is not popular with the Govt and has not significantly re armed since 1982, a Govt that has also repeatedly said that it will only pursue peaceful means. It would attract very unwelcome attention from the IMF, the last thing it wants with the state of its economy, and the UN has come out firmly in favour of self determination.

No South American nation has the stomach, appetite or desire for a military conflict with the UK.

pr00ne,

I agree with you; totally.

However (I know, I know, never start a sentence with however), if you look at the press reports in Argentina and the the press in surrounding countries, plus the economic blockades, I feel Argentina are putting themselves in a situation where they will have no option but to attempt an invasion.

There are reports of a proposed fishermen "invasion" for political gain. How the Falkland Island police manage this situation would also provide Argentina with political ammunition. It wouldn't matter how the situation would be managed the UK would still come out looking bad.

I am also able to think of a few ways that Argentina could make an invasion, without the use of their navy.

I can only agree with Pr00ne. An SSN and a T45 trumps anything Argentina can do.

Hval,

i think you are correct - if anyone were to actually look at the spiral of government action/rhetoric, media coverage, and public demonstrations, this only going one way. nobody in Argentina is saying 'hang on', its all a viscous circle on incitement and can only have some type of military action as its end state.

the Argentine government is going to find itself in a position - self caused - where it has to have some kind of pop at the FI in order to stay in office. now, losing that pop may well result in it losing office, but that is less certain than the fact that it will get kicked out if it drives Argentina to the precipice and then saying 'nah, we told proone that we'd stick to peaceful means...'

who the fcuking hell believes what foreign governments - particularly ones who claim UK territory - say anyway?

Navaleye,

It would look bad if the UK sank some fishing boats, or a cruise ship etc. Also, do we have sufficient assets to detect potential invasions from all directions - including the air?

I believe that Argentina are extremely unlikely to succeed, which is why I believe it to be foolish to even attempt an invasion. One thing on their side is the fact that the very few assets that we have are currently focussed else where.

I do feel that Argentinian politicians may not have any option though.

Turn the situation round, how would one put troops on an island to disrupt/sabotage the defence Command and Control? It is a big coastline with plenty of inlets/creeks.


Hvals use of 'civilians' could also prove very difficult to deal with, would the RN be able to justify sinking bunch of trawlers especially if there were some cameras on hand? Indeed depending how spread out they were how would the RN deal with effectively intercepting them?

I wonder what the status of the FIDF would be in any fisticuffs? Are they fully under the C&C of UKBF, with the same RoE's? And don't FIDF have a gunboat too? Not saying they could see off Ms Kirchners boys singlehanded but they do know the area rather well and who knows what off the ball tackles they could put in?!