yes,

take all troops from the sandpit and instead reinforce the Falkland Islands, conduct an "exercise" down there and show the neighbours what our idea of militarising the area would be. Send more Typhoons and some GR4s, perhaps some AH64s too, and have a rehearsal, obviously with the press there to "count them all out, and count them all back".

cokecan

Superb post, well said:D

I particularly liked this

"and i want to see the BG tell that nice Mr Obama that if he doesn't fancy making a statement about the US's absolute commitment to the right of self determination of the Fakland Islanders, then he can fcuk himself off and find one of his own fcuking divisions to control central Helmand.

i get very bored with us being the quiet, civilised and supportive ones and for those we support to piss on us at every given opportunity." OBAMA - Take note !

"and i want to see the BG tell that nice Mr Obama that if he doesn't fancy making a statement about the US's absolute commitment to the right of self determination of the Fakland Islanders, then he can fcuk himself off and find one of his own fcuking divisions to control central Helmand.

i get very bored with us being the quiet, civilised and supportive ones and for those we support to piss on us at every given opportunity."

I agree absolutely.

I'm fully in agreement with the recent posts that support this view but i'd like to add something...

Let's start extracting the Billions of dollars worth of "stuff" that is down there... Rather than just sitting on it and sticking out our tongues at SA. Make the investment pay for itself...:ugh:

:ok: 'wot they all said, cokecan onwards.

I didn't spend 3-4 months of my life down living on a bleedin' car ferry down there almost thirty years ago :sad: just so some wuss to give them back now, just because it's politically expedient or the easy thing to do ( oh yes, and thirty years back some of the sceptics, mainly the significant one's in important places, were quietly on our side. This time if they're not..... stuff 'em)

CC

Well said Sir! I'll keep it the back of my mind when I go down there next week for a couple of months.

Regards

Gene

Bloody hell... It's the Prince!!!! :}

AA

No fella, he's already there. At least that's the rumour...

See.. If you'd have played that for a while we could have brought out all the sycophants... ;)

Sorry, couldn't keep a straight face! My money is on the fact that the annual posturing at the UN is more public due to a couple of high profile deployments.

Cheers

Gene

GGenie,

good luck down there. despite my Daily Hate-style rant, i really think they're going to have a pop at the islands - thats all political tea-leaves reading, nothing military, but its what i do for a living.

be careful, and bring back the bridge bell from a MEKO destroyer!

Cokey,

post 501... Brilliant!

Now they're complaining that we've sent a Vanguard class down there.... hmmm, how would they know?

BBC News - UK sent nuclear sub near Falklands, says Argentina

I bet they think it's a smart play so we now couldn't/wouldn't park one off the coast of BA.

If we really were pushed to lobbing those evil things about I would have thought it wouldn't need to be anywhere near....... Oh well. Nice try Argies.

Obama (and the US) seems to really like offending the US's past supporters / friends.

He goes to Egypt on his first OS trip and blames Israel for the Mid East problems.
Europe becomes "old europe".
Don't seem to want to support the UK over the Falklands but quite happy for the UK to support the US in most of the wars it has got into over the last 20 years.
Seems to chummy up to countries like Australia, who although have supported the US over the same 20 years as the UK, without deingrating the job they have done the amount of support is minute compared to the UK.
Wants to chummy up to South America where most seem to hate the US anyway.
The US seems to like blaming everyone for the economic problems of the world while their own backyard is crumbling and needing bailout.

I think a bit of scratching the back of those that have scratched theirs OVER THE LONG TERM might not be in order down the track and reminding them of it as well.

Rant over:O

Flyingblind,

Agree, love her or hate her, even if she didn't have a pair, she certainly played like she did and with the big boys too. Good on her, we need more like her, those with a bit of backbone (regardless of political persuasion). :ok:

Did anyone take any notice of the utter drivel that the ARG FORMIN said to the UN General Assembly?

He show the 'network' of military bases that the UK uses to control the SA, well known PJOBs suchj as St Helena and Tristan da Chuna.

He claimed that the UK had a nuclear weapons accident 'when passing material between ships' in 2003. He stated that intelligence sources advised that HMS Vanguard was in the area and that the UK had been asked (but refused to respond) whether it was carrying nukes.

The FORMIN claimed that the UK likened the situation in the SA to the Gulf and in so doing, justified the deployment of a T45.

He showed an image of an array that 'an intelligence agency' advised was connected to Radars in France, Canada, Australia and, err, Japan!

He showed a map of the FI showing the global communications network that the UK installed (must be large balls of string...)


He claimed that Typhoon pilots train in the FI before being deployed to Iraq and AFG. Tiffy also carries Taurus. The Typhoon had been operated by Britain over Iraq, AFG and Libya, giving us a 5th generation capability (that bit was true). He showed rather inflated unrefuelled range rings of the Typhoon showing that it could hit Brazil, inter alia.

Either the FORMIN enjoys telling porkies to the GA or he's been fed disinformation. Either way, tje presentation was a crock of sh!t. Argentina will, of course, get support from the UNGA in te form of a non-binding resolution, but if it's discussed by the Security Council, the UK can veto it! After all, the UK (Anthony Eden) was co-architect of the structure.

Whenurhappy,

much more importan than whether we know its drivel that a simple trip to wiki would dispel, what are the Argentine media going to be screaming this morning?

the problem is that the Argentine public will believe this twaddle, and for political reasons the other LA governments will say they believe this twaddle, so the Argentine media will be screaming 'we're in danger' and demanding their government do something.

i'm reminded of the consequences of another long held political view, a dodgy briefing at the UN, some grinning half-wit who went along with it in order to be seen as a big man on the world stage, protestations that the UN route was vital, and a media that was stoked up by a government into printing any old crap...

Cokecan, I think that you are underestimating the Argentine public, if my recent trip and the comments in their newspapers are anything to go by.

Clarin is very pro-government but even their comments section has little in the way of support for this ridiculous declaration in the UN. La Nacion is even less supportive, most of the comments refer to the Falklands situation as a smoke screen to divert attention from inflation and unemployment.

I was in BA last week on business, and, as all of my contacts know that I served two tours down south, it's a subject that comes up every time. Not one person that I met supports military action to recover the islands, a few think that diplomacy is the way forward, but the majority say that it's up to the islanders to decide. The conversation soon moved on to football, a much more dangerous subject.

The situation may be different in the provinces, but the more informed Argentine can see this twaddle for what it really is, a distraction.

TTFN