Love or loath either of them they were both going sausage side at Xmas to try and do something good for folk stuck in a bad place at this time of year, some of the "it's only banter" sad ***** commenting in here really do need to get a life :=

Has anybod read the thread on here from the American on his way home?

Headcounts? movers cant count up to 160?
Luckily at the moment unlike lots of others I am sat on my sofa at home, just watched a programme about a well established airline that makes lots of money, one of the stories, a delay for head count issue.
There was an interesting comment from the CEO of that company, nobody every remembers the flight that goes without a hitch.

looking forward to hearing Mt Blunt comment on every other ailine in the world that suffers the same problems without all the issues of flying in to a conflict zone added to it

The last 2 times I've been on a trooper into East Midlands we taxied straight to the cargo terminal, walked off the aircraft, straight onto
MT coaches at the bottom of the steps and swept out of the airfield gates for a quick journey home. No sign of any movers or customs or security checks or H&S knobbers.

This happened to me too, although it was Air Finland who took us back to EMA. We helped unload and we were out of the gate within 30mins.

Has anyone experianced a turnaround at EMA. One way usually is a smooth event and pre-planned due to a flow clash / locality of pax home base.

Really annoyed, I've arranged a special delivery from Santa for you tonight:


And Bah, Humbug to you!!

If only the MOD had been as keen to sign the FTSA deal as they had for the aircraft carriers the A330s would be in service now.

Boarding the McDonnell Douglas DC-10 and video of Katherine singing and having photographs taken with troops. Well done Katherine! :ok:



The Air Charters are open source. You'll also find the Air Charter companies mentioned in UK Parliament questions and answers.

http://www.ukmams.co.uk/TeamBrief/Te...w%20res%20.pdf

TJ

Thanks, TJ - isn't she such a little star!

Not in the same league, but I remember flying back to the UK with Lufthansa in Dec 2003. As I was at the front of the cabin, I could hear all sorts of mysterious girlish giggles going on in the front galley....

As we were taxying in, after the usual "Welcome to Birmingham" arrival brief, there was a nervous giggle followed by the purserette and her 2 female flight attendant colleagues singing "Ve vish you a Merry Christmas und a Happy New Year!"

No problem, Beags. Katherine certainly is a star!

TJ

Will I have read all the posts and have yet to read that the TriStar fleet is in fact grounded? If they are "why". Or is this just another round of the TriStar haters spreading hate discontent?

Farfrompuken,

Thanks for the information.

However, I fail to see how "all" the aileron (inboard and/or outboard) bushings on "all" the TriStar fleet could fatigue at the same time and how do bearings fatigue?

Farfrompuken,

I wasn't trying to "kill the messenger" but I still have a special place in my heart for the RAF TriStars, I was the Lockheed "on-site-represenative" several years ago and have been hearing what bad shape the TriStars are in since before I even got to Brize Norton. The people of he 216 Squadron do a great job of taking care of the day to day problems, but having to relay on Marshall and Gamco (or what ever they call themselves now) for the heavy maintenance just takes too much time and money.

IMHO you have hit upon the reason the RAF has so many problems with the TriStars is that they don't use them as they were intended. Far too time much sitting on the ground and not in the air.

Cheers!

glhcarl its the same as Nimrod.

The good will of a nation has now gone **** off Mr Cameron

Our small company operate two -500's and a couple of -250's (between two companies) so...if any expertise is desired by the MoD, just have 'em send me a private message.
IE; It's not really that difficult provided one knows what one is actually...doing.:rolleyes:

Further to your rather incorrect comments, any delays out of theatre for our brave boys and girls is now not lost leave but is now tagged onto their r&r. Facts straight!! People like you frustrate me no end, people work bloody hard to ensure boys and girls get to where they need to be and for when with limited funding and equipment.

Merry Christmas.

GTAT

GTAT: was it not the case until recently that any delay leaving theatre WAS lost from R&R time and not tagged onto the end?

RE: Tristars. I recall an interview in Flight International some years back where the top neddy at Cathay Pacific was asked if his "old" Tristars caused problems for the company. His replay was that there was no such thing as an "old" aeroplane, just those that became increasingly expensive to keep young!

The procurement bods at MoD would do well to heed those words - there are only two real choices: either buy the spares that are needed or replace the aeroplanes with new ones.

In the past, of course, the RAF has benefited from BA operating aeroplanes that were older and had more hours than the military versions. The VC10 was a great example: when something broke on a BA one, the RAF got advance notice.

There is one good side to the DC1o delay story!!

at least it was KJ that got up front to sing for the passengers they were not forced to listen to that Blunt fella! Was he sat at the front sulking or summat?

Tri Star seen airbourne over Brize today!

valveclosed,

You are right - I would go throught any inconvenience for the chance to see KJ sing in the flesh! She is gooooooooooooorgeous!

Good morning,

If any RAF top brass are ever looking in to Pprune, do they ever listen or read and take in whats being written and spoken, this morning we have C17 gone tech, pilots with not enough hours and troops being placed in hotels, or accomodation for 24 hours due the lack or A/frames and /or Pilots who have a clean Tacho, what in Gods name is happening to the men on the ground whilst this shambolic fiasco is being allowed to continue, we that is the UK must look like a third rate African State to those who look in from the outside.

How can other Countrys ever have faith in the words of the Government of the UK when we cant get our troops out or back, God help the lads on the ground if something really serious goes wrong in their world.

Peter R-B