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Gainesy 26th Sep 2010 09:35

Warrier Chief Tech than what?

Knew one who liked bayonets. He was a bit strange, he was Welsh though.

What's with the Blunty, been embezzeling duvets?:)

The Nr Fairy 26th Sep 2010 16:26

Is embezzling duvets the same as getting togged up ?

minigundiplomat 26th Sep 2010 16:59

I don't know, but Ive heard it gets you down.

Shack37 26th Sep 2010 22:14


I've actually visited 60 odd countries, a fair few of which dont exist anymore. My favourite at the moment is a part of Afghanistan (that's East of Essex) called Helmand.

Yes, Ive spent 5 years at Lyneham.

I work at Odiham.

I do hope that has helped. I am committed to working with underprivileged kids, especially those with learning difficulties. With that in mind, if you have any other questions, I'll be happy to sit down and go through them with you.
40/15 to MGD. Awaiting reply from really annoyed who is now really furious.

We didn't have samsonites OR duvets when I was in. (added to avoid thread drift)

Gainesy 27th Sep 2010 09:53

Thinking about it, having a Samsonite flanking your seat when inbound to places where random AK rounds are not unusual is not a bad idea at all. Sort of high tech sandbag.
No dafter than a floor full of chain?

P6 Driver 27th Sep 2010 09:53

"Wow, I never thought it was the suit case that gave it away. I just looked for the fat wheezy tosser vacuum packed in a dirty flying suit"

Here's someone in a flying suit earlier this year. It looked clean but I can't vouch for his character.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4081/...55672773c3.jpg

The stitching appeared to be on the "at risk" register.

brakedwell 27th Sep 2010 10:16

If the Samsonites were painted in camouflage colours (with discrete roundels on the side) would they be acceptable? BTW are those grotty old Nav Bags still in fashion?

Gainesy 27th Sep 2010 10:34

They are WSOs now, whatever the sex.

Dengue_Dude 27th Sep 2010 10:35


BTW are those grotty old Nav Bags still in fashion?
Cor, I remember how 'grown up' I felt when I got my first one . . .

Mind you, I still have the grey wooden pencil boxes which are in daily use.

I'm still trying to get my head round the edict 'no Samsonites'. It appears that the 'thinking' (if any) is to clearly identify being military - a total anathema when I was in (and yes, times change).

My trusty one lasted all my years on Hercs/Tristars until Manchester baggage handlers managed the impossible and broke the handle.

My 'new' Samsonite lives empty in the loft now - thank God. I just feel SOo sorry for those who are still being nibbled at in this fashion.

charliegolf 27th Sep 2010 10:56


It appears that the 'thinking' (if any) is to clearly identify being military
I'd have thought being in a war, flying military aeroplanes for a living and being at regular risk of death would be quite enough to single the boys and girls out as military. Samsonites banned, my ar@e. (Note the comma:ok:)

CG

500days2do 27th Sep 2010 11:37

Thread Re-visited
 
Amusing comment..

Wow, I never thought it was the suit case that gave it away. I just looked for the fat wheezy tosser vacuum packed in a dirty flying suit....!!
Obviously "2 dinners" is a far better commander....really..!!!
Looking good in a body bag was never one of my desires...

This is infact quite possibly a comment made by the present Staish whilst he was mascarading as a Flight Commander in a previous life...yes he has always been an arrogant t$$t.

But then he was part of the problem then, and still is I'm sure...Mr Smoke Screen would be a better name for him...The problems within his "Flight" which, IMHO added to the disaster of XV 179, macho posturing to his Army buddies and the ability to turn a national asset into a flying club with no teeth will always sit as his door.

5d2d....out and glad of it.

The Gorilla 27th Sep 2010 11:50

500

Just googled him! My hasn't he risen far and fast!!

Nice cushy little postings on the way too!!

I have to agree with all you say..:\

TOPBUNKER 27th Sep 2010 16:48

500. Do you really mean 193?
Startrek 3, Blair Athol, May 1993?
I believe current Staish was a co-pilot at the time.

Gainesy 28th Sep 2010 07:41

The aircraft shot down N of Baghdad? How so?

nigegilb 28th Sep 2010 08:22

XV 298 crashed on a strip at Kukes on a special mission. The briefing, according to the crew and not published, appeared to be a contributory factor to the crash.

XV 179 was shot down North of Baghdad. If the Flight Commander of that section, (the same person as above), had acted on the information presented to him, 3 years prior to the attack, the aircraft and crew, would most probably have survived the incident. The Barristers at the Inquest were certainly questioning of the evidence presented.

500days2do 28th Sep 2010 08:32

Edit of my Post
 
Apologies to all for my error, it was due to a purple mist moment.

I totally agree with Nige....having lived with the decisions and approach of the individual in discussion, and should I say the approach of his team during his tenure, it was always going to "end in tears"

5d2d

Hydraulic Palm Tree 28th Sep 2010 11:17

didn't he hit some troops in a vehicle on T/O in 2003 as well?

Darkside2 29th Sep 2010 05:14

500d2d......may I ask if you were ever part of his 'team'....or are you talking as an outsider? I consider myself fortunate to be part of his 'team' which saw the Hercules make great leaps forward in it's capabilities and what it was used for in Afghanistan 2003, Sierra Leone and then Iraq. He, in fact, stopped the 'country club' mentality and turned it into a very professional outfit....

As regards XV179, I am sure the personalities involved on that aircraft would have had their own views on their flt profile and chose to do the route they did, nothing to do with the current Staish's advice. For those that knew Steady, Gary Nic et al I am sure you will agree. The flukey shot that brought them down should be remembered for just what it was: a shot in a million....

Yes, he did hit a vehicle on T/O and I was airborne and in the vicinity to hear his mayday call.......He was blameless for that, the vehicle driver was at fault so please no mud slinging which is totally unjustified.....

Let's not let what started out as a fun comment about samsonites (and yes, mine too has remained well hidden out of view for a very long time...!) degenerate into a personal attack on a very capable individual....

Hydraulic Palm Tree 29th Sep 2010 08:33

Darkside - no mud slinging from me, merely stating a fact!

Having been 'around' when he was the Flt Cdr, and before and after his tenure, I can tell you that the Flt never lost its boys club attitude and I witnessed a wholesale lack of professionalism many many times.

If you want, I am quite happy to publish them on here - no I thought not!

The fact is, if JG thought something as trivial as banning Samonsites would get him further up the tree, he would do it!

HPT

Vie sans frontieres 29th Sep 2010 08:45

Shouldn't a thread that seems to be developing into the story of what happens when Herc pilots from a certain flight take themselves a bit too seriously be linked to the one entitled No - really - I wasn't chopped - honestly! :)

Cue lots of people telling us they joined the RAF to fly Hercs.:ok:


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