Is it just me, or is this thread getting a little too close to capabilities....

We'll be alright as long as nobody mentions the shields or phasers.......damn, too late!!!

Biggus to be honest those systems seem more likely to be real than AUTOLYCUS-

an aircraft that sniffs for diesel fumes for chrissake!

Who'd believe that existed?

CS:)

I would, worked on the original, efficacy questionable but lots of room for tobacco products in the ioniser.

Autolycus: useful for homing on the Ruhr when there was an easterly' in the North Sea. Rumour had it there was at least one "contact" during the Cuban Crisis. Don't knock it till youv'e tried it!

Still, at least we can afford to spend millions replacing CS95 with a new pattern DPM.


When I'm skint, I don't buy new clothes - mind you, the wife still does! Is there a woman in charge of defence?? what was wrong with the old stuff?

VR

Two sets of old stuff, greens and desert, only one set of new....

Cost saving measure (eventually)!!!

Haddon - Cave demonstrated what happens when you make savings (take risk) without understanding the potential consequences. I think this 'gapping' of the Nimrod's long range SAR capability and SAR scene controller may tragically come home to haunt those who decided to risk this gap in capability without understanding the limitations of those assets said to be providing it in the meantime.

Bringing forward Nimrod OSD was muted several months ago when the costs of getting the frames to an acceptable airworthiness condition became apparent. It was considered to be too expensive to fix. This is purely about trading off capability against cost. On paper there is a capability gap for a few short years, but there is a BIG risk in this decision. I am already hearing of problems with MRA4, (related to H-C). This is a calculated gamble, only time will tell if it is the correct decision. I and I suspect many others, would rather have seen the money spent on the existing airframe, which is already safer than it has been for many years.

Must be fairly desperate times in the Puzzle Palace...

Pedant mode on.

Presumably you really meant to write 'mooted' rather than 'muted'. At least I hope so!

muted
Function: adjective
Date: 1855
1 a : being mute : silent b : toned down : low-key, subdued

moot
Function: transitive verb
Date: before 12th century
1 archaic : to discuss from a legal standpoint : argue
2 a : to bring up for discussion : broach b : debate

Pedant mode off!

The Belgian Invasion
 

Old Fat One
Your retaliation has been scuppered - No more Eurostar till after Christmas. Obviously the Belgiques got wind of your masterplan.
However, I think they would have thwarted the Brits in the first place. Using their secret weapons, readily available at all good stores and pubs on the mainland i.e. excellent beers (real Belgiques don't drink Stella), and chocolates, what chance would U.K. stand.

davejb
I think you were taking a snipe at us Paddys. If it was a joke then I have bitten. Re WW2 and the Irish help, check how many allied aircrew were interned for the duration and how many senior British politicians and military staff were flown from Foynes to the U.S. and back. I think there was a fair amount of help for a 'neutral' country. Also, if a U-boat crew was ashore they were not at sea sinking allied ships - just a thought.

Thanks LL, you have no idea how knackered I am tonight. You obviously have the same OCD issues as myself......Ha ha.

Platforms come and go...Bases get the chop...Lots more will be going in the next 10 years, but as always we overcome the problems.
I can imagine the uproar when the Flying Boats went out of service.("whats going to do its job now we can't land on the water")
Its a shame that a lot of the outgoing planes were British Built and will not survive to fly onwards like the Vulcan

Sorry James,
whilst 'returned rather than interned' aircrew was the norm, and a fair few Irish citizens made their way north to enlist, de Valera also refused the RN the use of the treaty ports - given the urgency of the Battle of the Atlantic (especially when you note that some of the shipping under threat was destined to supply Eire) I still think that suggests it'd be a rather stupid strategy that relied on the Irish filling in any gaps in UK defence.

Eire | Oxford Companion to World War II | MyWire

- I'm not saying the Irish OUGHT to join in, I'm saying we'd be bloody stupid to rely on it.

@Biggus, I thought so to. But according to BBC the new uniform is only replacing the green stuff, desert will remain so still... 2 sets no money saved.

I assume that they will be changing the FRCS95 to match the new DPM?:confused:

Fear not, I have a back up plan. I've picked up a load of second hand 737s from some geezer called Elias Elias, I met in the pub.

Hang on a mo; I put down a deposit on those well before you!?

Trouble is he holds a trump card called The Treasury

Boeing 737's
 

Here's a bit of thread creep.
Aren't Boeing building an ASW version of the Bo737 (P8?)
If we end up canning the MRA 4, what the betting that we get these instead?

...and, as a stop gap, people like EasyJet and Ryanair may have a couple we can lease. Look on it as training for the new tankers - you know, the ones we can lease to the airlines when the RAF are't using them.

Cynically yours.......