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diginagain 15th Apr 2011 20:26

Or 'Slider', or 'the bloke with the spare link'.

Dundiggin' 15th Apr 2011 20:52

diginagain.........
 
naughty, naughty...........:=

ILLUC IVI ILLUD FECI 15th Apr 2011 21:45

Dog attacks
 
Feb 84 Aughnacloy.

After the int folks crawled over the aircraft for a couple of hours looking at the damage, and realising there were 'entry holes' on both sides of the tail pylon (adjacent to the handhold), Jengo accused the pilot of backing into a hedge. Two days later said dog tried the same trick on a gazelle in the same location.

Amusing bit was the RN exchange officer who penned a quite amusing incident signal (for him) about the attack on the aircraft by an IRA-te dog!

PhamousPhotographer 16th Apr 2011 09:55

WO2 Wayne Cuckson
 
This has featured in local and national media reports over the past few days.

]Abingdon grieves over death of soldier hero killed in motorcycle crash (From The Oxford Times)[/SIZE]

Don’t know his rank/unit on 19th March 1994, but he was the soldier who saved the life of an RUC officer that day when 655 Lynx ZD275 was destroyed on XMG hls after a Mk 15 came over the fence. A brave man. RIP.

Cows getting bigger 16th Apr 2011 10:47


What are you on about? Your so called 'Loadmaster' is a 'Crewman' on helicopters not a freeking 'Loadmaster' - get a bloody grip and get some time in....ffs!
ISTR they were called 'Doormen' at a certain German RAF base mid 80s. At least that is the term the Stn Cdr used during a Monday morning mass brief. :eek: Oh, how I laughed. :}

PS. I float around the province quite a lot now. If anyone wants a recent picture of past haunts, drop me a line.

Fareastdriver 16th Apr 2011 11:49


What are you on about? Your so called 'Loadmaster' is a 'Crewman' on helicopters not a freeking 'Loadmaster' - get a bloody grip and get some time in....ffs!
When I started support helicopter flying the crew in the back were called crewmen because it was obvious that they were not Air Signallers any more. At the end of the sixties a new batch came along with 'LM' on their chest instead of 'S'. We still called them crewmen though there formal address was Loadmaster.


And by the way htf would you know whether your 'Crewman' was strapped in? Pompous arse!
In over forty-six years of flying with a crew if ensuring the safety and security of my crew at all stages of flight made me a Pompous arse then so be it.

Dundiggin' 16th Apr 2011 12:39

Fareastdriver....
 
Fair enough.........:ok:

oldbeefer 16th Apr 2011 13:25

'Course, to start with the 'crewman/loadmaster' was a cpl engineer who was, at least, some use if the a/c broke away from base - and cost a lot less!

Tiger Tales 16th Apr 2011 13:30

A bit like Cpl/Sgt pilots then!:E

Dundiggin' 16th Apr 2011 17:44

Oldbeefer.........
 
Dead right...but not only did I also mend it away from base (I didn't do engine changes of course!) but I did the AF, BF and T/R plus minor rectifications, as I am sure you did too but I also used to navigate it, keep control of what was happening in the back, abseiling, fast roping, ordinary roping, check and supervise the rigging of USLs, brief the troops, do Decca let downs and generally remain a good egg with good banter to make it an enjoyable experience...........oh! and order the in-flight rations! I could transmit a passable radio message, fly the helicopter if the single pilot had a heart attack (!) (Wessex, Puma and the (Chinook - with Auto pilot engaged), give performance figs for all, monitor the emergency drills, pre-take-offs, pre-landing checks, refuel using kelston, zenith or zwicky (?) pumps from barrels, tankers or out the back of a Herc all on NVG if necessary, I could be winch operator or winchman to rescue people and I could kill people if I wanted with the GPMG or the Mini Gun.
So all in all the crewman world has come on apace from your day - but I'm sure you did your best but how committed to the aircrew life were you really?
Most technicians/crewmen have told me they preferred the groundcrew option and eventually reverted back to their basic trade.

PlasticCabDriver 16th Apr 2011 19:45


Dead right...but not only did I also mend it away from base (I didn't do engine changes of course!) but I did the AF, BF and T/R plus minor rectifications, as I am sure you did too but I also used to navigate it, keep control of what was happening in the back, abseiling, fast roping, ordinary roping, check and supervise the rigging of USLs, brief the troops, do Decca let downs and generally remain a good egg with good banter to make it an enjoyable experience...........oh! and order the in-flight rations! I could transmit a passable radio message, fly the helicopter if the single pilot had a heart attack (!) (Wessex, Puma and the (Chinook - with Auto pilot engaged), give performance figs for all, monitor the emergency drills, pre-take-offs, pre-landing checks, refuel using kelston, zenith or zwicky (?) pumps from barrels, tankers or out the back of a Herc all on NVG if necessary, I could be winch operator or winchman to rescue people and I could kill people if I wanted with the GPMG or the Mini Gun.
And open and close the doors.

diginagain 16th Apr 2011 20:37

.....and pass around the butty-boxes and squash.

TheWizard 16th Apr 2011 23:54

....and rim the pilots flask and gob in his sandwich :p

Airborne Aircrew 17th Apr 2011 00:29


gob in his sandwich
You need to get an imagination... :E

TheWizard 17th Apr 2011 00:31

....and you need to use yours!! :E

Airborne Aircrew 17th Apr 2011 00:37

I did... Often... Depending on the person at the front... :}

Fareastdriver 17th Apr 2011 10:40


Dead right...but not only did I also mend it away from base (I didn't do engine changes of course!) but I did the AF, BF and T/R plus minor rectifications, as I am sure you did too but I also used to navigate it, keep control of what was happening in the back, abseiling, fast roping, ordinary roping, check and supervise the rigging of USLs, brief the troops, do Decca let downs and generally remain a good egg with good banter to make it an enjoyable experience...........oh! and order the in-flight rations! I could transmit a passable radio message, fly the helicopter if the single pilot had a heart attack (!) (Wessex, Puma and the (Chinook - with Auto pilot engaged), give performance figs for all, monitor the emergency drills, pre-take-offs, pre-landing checks, refuel using kelston, zenith or zwicky (?) pumps from barrels, tankers or out the back of a Herc all on NVG if necessary, I could be winch operator or winchman to rescue people and I could kill people if I wanted with the GPMG or the Mini Gun.
and I was legally responsible for making sure that you did it correctly.

xenolith 17th Apr 2011 11:56

Far East Drivler

But I bet you never did, coffee in Buzzards hut at 'hands dirty time' was it.

As for the pi$$ing contest:

Highest mark on the wall goes to Dundiggin - cos he's the tallest.

Lowest mark on the wall goes to Plasic Cab Driver - as he is too portly to reach the tap so he just lets it run on to the floor.

Fareastdriver 17th Apr 2011 12:18


But I bet you never did, coffee in Buzzards hut at 'hands dirty time' was it.

A HUT???????and COFFEE??????

By God, you had it easy.

PlasticCabDriver 17th Apr 2011 12:55

Xenolith, you clearly know me! Never been called portly before. Large, stout, and my favourite - "of non-athletic build", but never portly!

xenolith 17th Apr 2011 16:55

Far East, Bloody kids....:)

Plastic, Bumped into you in ALD, though the last time I saw you across a crowded room, Nov 09, you had your head on upside down.

PlasticCabDriver 17th Apr 2011 17:04

Still is! And even more hair appears to have slipped off it and onto my back/into my ears etc etc!

lsh 17th Apr 2011 20:20


As for the pi$$ing contest:

Highest mark on the wall goes to Dundiggin - cos he's the tallest.

Lowest mark on the wall goes to Plasic Cab Driver - as he is too portly to reach the tap so he just lets it run on to the floor
Hey! I absolutely INSIST on Pi**ing the lowest, after all I could stand up in the Puma cabin, helmet on !!

lsh
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diginagain 17th Apr 2011 20:23

Your name is "Spanky" T****r, and I claim my £5.

PhamousPhotographer 30th Apr 2011 16:17

St Angelo / Lough Erne / Grosvenor
 
Two shots, the first taken shortly before the Wessex / Puma line moved from Angelo to Grosvenor.

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...95Phphotog.jpg

XV728 ‘A’ on 27:08:1995 with JJ C****, Si C*********** and J****n W****y.
XT607‘P’ is just visible on the helipad below and slightly ahead of ‘Alpha’s’ nose, with the rest of the camp extending to the right of the frame and Ballycassidy sawmills beyond. The newly-surfaced RWY 33 of the civil airport points towards the wartime seaplane base at Castle Archdale some six miles to the north-west amongst the inlets and islands of Lower Lough Erne. Not the best Fermanagh weather for what could have been a much more scenic view. Within ten minutes the sun was shining.

Just as it was for this view of XW223 over a closed and deserted Grosvenor Barracks at Coles Hill, Enniskillen fourteen years later.

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...09Phphotog.jpg

Landmarks are Rossorry Church, Drummee limestone quarry, now a landfill site, Coles Hill / Lough Shore Road housing developments, Navar Viewpoint, Lower Lough Erne and the hills of Donegal, beyond on the distant horizon. Might post a couple more from that area.

Tiger Tales 1st May 2011 11:40

Ah, the Navar viewpoint. Now that brings back some memories!! I wonder how many courting couples were 'surprised' over the years?! :E

Pontius 2nd May 2011 09:23

I suppose the great thing about taking pictures of the RAF cabs is you can guarantee the good weather. Must have to crack the aperture down a bit to counter all that sunshine though :}

Occasional Aviator 2nd May 2011 12:35

Cor - 223 with a 230 door on... that ties it to a particular time.

Shackman 2nd May 2011 14:43

If the dates above are to be believed it will be taken next year!

PhamousPhotographer 2nd May 2011 15:11

Fair-Weather Flyers?
 
Re the Angelo / Grosvenor dates; just testing, Shackman! 10/10 for observation. As for apertures/shutter speeds, nope; have flown in shabby weather with both RAF & TWA, but the photo results are rarely worth showing. Another one from that 2009 set for the navs – where’s this location?

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...09PhPhotog.jpg

PS 1:200 @ f8 here with 1:200 / f11 for the Grosvenor one.

Shackman 2nd May 2011 16:41

Far too easy - long finals for Belleek!

PhamousPhotographer 2nd May 2011 18:58

Location
 
More specific than that - you're not looking closely. Dundiggin?

Tiger Tales 2nd May 2011 19:20

Don't tell anyone but I think PP is referring to that little bitty HLS in the cab's 7 o'clock (not easy to see on gogs!)

Dundiggin' 2nd May 2011 19:50

PP - sorry mate - NAFC!! :confused:

ChristopherRobin 2nd May 2011 20:28

it's here on G-maps. Flew just past Belleek only yesterday afternoon, but must check if the HLS is still there the next time out.

PhamousPhotographer 2nd May 2011 20:54

Green 205
 
The site is / was G205, the PVCP at Rosscor Viaduct. That’s Slavin Parish Church on the main EKN - Belleek road. Just west of it a roadside PVCP compound controlled the T junction leading to the viaduct and, apart from the helipad, the sole remaining reminder of the military presence is a single Bailey span at the north end of Rosscor.

Still in use and a tribute to the Royal Engineers who erected it to re-open the route in the early 1980s, I think they’d explosively demolished the pre-cast concrete original a few years earlier as it was regarded as a PIRA rat-run, but others can possibly confirm that? I did see a pair of 72 Sqn Wessex on the Angelo – Rosscor resupply tasking in July 1986. That's why I'd wondered if Dundiggin knew it?

Tiger Tales 2nd May 2011 21:09

Had a nice 4 hour wait on that little spot around 1999 with a sickly Puma that had a bit of blade missing. RUC/troops provided cordon and we had a visit from the occupants of the house by the church. They bought tea and biscuits which was very friendly!!
I think it was J***A D******Y and crew who arrived with the 'rescue party' unannounced at low level causing a few expletives and sarcastic comments from the troops!

Memories......:)

Dundiggin' 2nd May 2011 21:22

PP.............
 
Nah PP - I was in Hong Kong then - whooping it up in Red Lips!:E

ShyTorque 2nd May 2011 22:18


Cor - 223 with a 230 door on... that ties it to a particular time.
Or times. The airframes were moved about a bit.

I flew XW223 in Belize in January 1980 and Jan 1981.

I also flew it in Germany in May 1981, now a 230 Sqn aircraft.

On 14th August 1981 I flew it on task with "lsh", again on the strength of 230. Lsh, where did we go? I only recorded the task number in my log book.

On 21st August I did my IRT in it with the late George Blackie as my IRE.

Nov 22nd 1983 I flew her again, still in Germany.

Next and last time for me was 22 Feb 1991, back at Odiham during a refresher course check ride. IIRC, back then 240 OCU were sharing airframes with 33 Sqn due to a severe shortage (GW1).

PhamousPhotographer 9th May 2011 20:14

Green 205 Farewell.
 

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...07PhPhotog.jpg

To my knowledge this was the last Op Banner visitor to land on that helipad.

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...07PhPhotog.jpg

The lough is just visible with the Donegal Hills beyond as I'm told to board.

http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/x...07PhPhotog.jpg

As in Now, or you can walk.
Door Gunner Al D******* losing patience with Phamous. The green area on the ridge line marks the former site of the compound and OP tower. Could this ever beat time spent in Red Lips? Next stop?


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