Tonight, Channel 4 will show a one of programme about the Type 45 at 1930.

Building Britain's Ultimate Warship

See also the more recent thread: Evolution of PAAMS/Sea Viper

Presumably Trojan, if it had made it to Hull and released its weapons, it would have done a billion pounds worth of improvements?

Treason that what you just said. Yardarm job.:suspect::suspect:

Thanks for the heads up about the programme. I thought it was awesome and I'm very impressed and somewhat envious of the young men and women who will be defending us in these new ships - we need more, of everything!

It looked very impressive indeed.
Although I did note that they still can't get decent windscreen wipers!

Yup, very impressive except that the computers crashed during the trial.

Comments along the lines of 'It's ok chaps, we've still got the 30mm'!!!!!

Says it all. One fuse goes and your ship is sunk.

That's why you have trials, to iron out all the potential snags, learn from them and, hopefully, they never happen again. :)

Must be comforting for the ship's company to know that the supplier of the said fuse was almost certainly chosen because he offered the best value, as opposed to the best fuse.

Handy things tick lists ...... :ugh:

To quote from the after dinner speech "what goes up must come down" - "radar, like so many other modern systems, suffers from a major problem in that it is powered by the 3 pin electric plug. All was going well until Mrs Jones the tea lady......"

"Presumably Trojan, if it had made it to Hull and released its weapons, it would have done a billion pounds worth of improvements?"


I've often thought that about my home city of Coventry, that the Luftwaffe ought to be invited back to finish the job off.... properly this time :E

Green Granite - I can only assume that your comment was tongue-in-cheek... Otherwise I'm guessing you have never seen a modern Ops Room in action. Or should I say inaction, given that everything stops working with alarming regularity....

The programme was reasonably good. I liked the way when it was stated that the Type 45 was the result of the lessons of the Falklands. Surely the results of the lessons from 1982 included the AEW (now ASACs) Sea King, the Sea Harrier FA2, CIWS (not currently fitted to T45), the Type 23, and lots of other things that didn't need a wait of over 25 years?

On which note, this interview with the then First Sea Lord in 2003, contains the following truism:

You need a lot of Type 45s to give the same coverage as a naval air-defence fighter.

There is the link to the same interview on page one of the Sea Jet thread. Funny that the delays weren't mentioned.

It was good that mention was made of the splashing of an Iraqi Silkworm by Sea Dart in 1991, and Eric Grove mentioned the use of anti ship missiles by Hezbollah, making the point that even non state players may have access to advanced weaponry. I also though it good that the price of these ships was put into context by comparing it with the vast sums spent of bailing out badly managed banks.

The second of class, Dauntless, was commissioned today. Roll on the first Sea Viper firings.

Not impressed by Paddys comments :{ The mood is one of mutual respect as each person carries out their roles quietly and competently. “The young sailor that joins the Navy today is of a higher calibre than those in the past,” says Captain McAlpine. “They are more highly educated [many Able Seamen have degrees] and they need better management and better leadership. This is highly complex and advanced technology that we’re using.”

Adam Smith I tell ye!
 

not wishing to be pedantic, but if that is the case then why are they in THAT job, does the RN not believe in social mobility in the 21st century??:8

Because besides the very real fact that there are degrees and then there are degrees (ask any employer if they believe education standards are the same today), being well educated does not always mean that someone is capable or maybe more to the point willing to take on responsibility.

There are many hierarchical careers (forces, police etc) where people deemed suitably qualified both educationally and professionally are unwilling to progress up the greasy pole.

Now you see your failure was that in you're rush you constructed your answer beginning with "because" which is acceptable orally but not in the written sense.

Which is of little value to either of us because if the Senior Service wishes to employ graduates to polish shoes off watch then they should be bloody glad of it I think we all should agree................................................:ugh::u gh: