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kiwi grey 11th Apr 2008 10:01

HMS Jupiter vs. London Bridge
 
Was that the one where the CO was court-martialled, and reduced in seniority by two years, which pushed him back down into the promotion band.
Presto! Formerly passed-over gent is promptly elevated to unimaginable heights. :}

Ah, the law of unintended consequences

Navaleye 11th Apr 2008 10:10

D O Guerrero,

That's a 30mm REMSIG Bushmaster mount, its either fully automatic or manual. Quite capable of taking out aerial targets.

airborne_artist 11th Apr 2008 10:12

Those baseball caps are dire - are they meant to be cool? :yuk:

D O Guerrero 11th Apr 2008 15:53

I think so. They're not the only things that look cheap and nasty onboard though. The furnishings look not dissimilar to the VT offerings aboard the River Class - ie very cheap, very nasty and more suitable for a mobile home than a warship. And the bridge definitely has a whiff of Townsend Thoresen about it.

airborne_artist 11th Apr 2008 15:57

Bring back the County class, I say. Proper ships, albeit with an abortion of a hangar ;)

PPI Zulu 11th Apr 2008 18:29

Glad to have been of service...sort of!
 
Pious,

I'm glad to have been of some sort of service.

I though for my first ever post it was a bit necky, but hoped it might engender some further discussion.
An immediate mauling by Navayeye put pay to that though!!

Maybe I'll just go for another tour in Ganners - it'll probably be safer.

:ok:

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU 11th Apr 2008 21:07


Originally Posted by D O Guerrero
The furnishings look not dissimilar to the VT offerings aboard the River Class - ie very cheap, very nasty and more suitable for a mobile home than a warship

It certainly isn’t cheap! You would also be amazed how difficult it is to provision Committee approved fabrics to the correct toxicity, fire safety, colourfastness, dimensional stability and durability standards.

D O Guerrero 12th Apr 2008 09:02

GBZ,

That may be the case... But it still looks cheap.

Check out a River Class Cabin. See if you can secure it for sea. I've been assaulted many times by items of furniture hurling themselves at me in slight sea states. And yes, they had been "secured". So the Committee didn't really do it's job in that case - probably because VT just do as they please until someone forces them to do otherwise.

It won't be long before someone has to remove a bulkhead panel to find that the sewerage pipes are held on with string.

D O G

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU 12th Apr 2008 14:04

Regrettably, I can well believe that. Sounds like a job for Form S2022 to me. It covers design defects as well.

WE Branch Fanatic 6th Jun 2008 19:41

Progress
 
1st Test Firing Success for Royal Navy's PAAMS

The successful firing marks a key step in the demonstration of the maturity of the PAAMS(S) system in the lead up to the missile system entering service onboard the Royal Navy's new Type 45 destroyers.

The trial comprised the firing of a single Aster 30 missile launched against a Mirach target simulating an aircraft, flying at 10km altitude. All aspects of the system behaved as expected with the Aster missile achieving a direct hit on the target at 35km range.


Moving away from the Type 45, Navy News reports on the Seawolf upgrade.

However, you need a lot of SAM armed ships to provide the same level of protection as fighters, as mentioned here back in 2003 by the First Sea Lord, and on the Sea Jet thread.

glad rag 6th Jun 2008 20:27

Actually I found the article, opposite on page 4, far more interesting and uplifting.

seafuryfan 7th Jun 2008 21:16

I'm cynical when it comes to believing all that stuff about tracking x number of targets etc etc. You'd have thought after all the procurement fiascos we've had that these 'techo stats' are not going to dazzle anyone.

It's radar capability is unlikely to stop the detonation of an inflatable laden with explosives next to the hull. The sharp reaction of a poorly paid sentry will be it's best chance.

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU 7th Jun 2008 23:14

seafuryfan. A bit below the boot toppings there, old thing. :}

D O Guerrero 8th Jun 2008 10:15

Poorly paid sentry? Do you believe everything you read in the Daily Mail?

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU 19th Nov 2008 13:28

It looks like DRAGON's weapons trials have started well!

http://www.mod.uk/NR/rdonlyres/34678...NE08035838.jpg

Ministry of Defence | Defence News | Equipment and Logistics | Royal Navy's Dragon enters the Clyde

Gainesy 19th Nov 2008 14:23

Looks like its just squished a yachty.:uhoh:

Surrey Towers 19th Nov 2008 14:31

You MIGHT think of it this way.

DME/TACAN can handle a hundred different 'targets' at any one moment!

There could be difference but I can't think of one.

A boffin might have other views though.

GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU 19th Nov 2008 15:33

DME/TACAN will respond to any recognised interrogation signal. It doesn’t record nor measure who and where it was and doesn’t really care.

Navaleye 19th Nov 2008 23:04

It's an awesome anti-air weapon. It takes 13 people on a T42 to launch a bird. Imagine how long that takes. PAAMS can take out any target automatically. One shot one kill. The SA that the T45 provides is light years ahead of anything we have now, even an Arleigh Burke with AEGIS. Its at least one generation ahead of anything Uncle Sam has. The RN is looking forward to taking one down to south Atlantic. Anything that leaves the ground in Argentina is a victim in waiting.

Trojan1981 20th Nov 2008 00:01


Anything that leaves the ground in Argentina is a victim in waiting.
Does that include Aerolineas?
Judging by recent events I think it would be more useful in British waters defending HM from marauding Tu-160s!

Russian nuclear bomber flies undetected to within 20 miles of Hull | Mail Online


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