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SaddamsLoveChild 13th Mar 2007 08:41

New Command?
 
Have heard a rumour that there is to be no more PTC/HQ STC from 1 Apr 07 but a new 'Air Command' with a newly created 3* appt within it. Is this jobs for the senior boys and a waste of hard pressed funding creating new letterheads, business cards and repainting parking places and signs etc etc.

Has there been a formal announcement that I have missed or a statement of the need to change what isnt broken, hasnt the Co-located HQ only just been formed? I must admit I would much rather seebenefit from some more FP/Armour/AT DAS in theatre where it counts rather than a shiney new badge and an extra seat at the Top Table in the Bucks HQ.:ugh:

spectre150 13th Mar 2007 08:59

1 Apr 07 is a long way off (at least 2 weeks), so there is loads of time to get the message out and get everyone informed of the new arrangements. Whats the rush? ;) I work at the site in question so no doubt I will be the last to know. :*

Wader2 13th Mar 2007 11:16

Who knows? Looks like the Strike pages on the Intranet are moribund. Clicking on 'latest' Cinc's bulletin pulls up one for 2005. Clicking on the bottom of the 2006 list brings up September's.

Like many internet sites it is personality driven and usually run by an enthusiastic amateur. The manager goes, the site map was not documented, and the whole thing dies.

Interesting to see if we get a new Mission Directive in the next 2 weeks. Odds anyone?

edited to add that the latest bulletin is actually Jan 07 but it depends on the route taken to find it. This is just as wonderful as it means we have at least two different hymn sheets in circulation.

spectre150 13th Mar 2007 14:07

Cr*p isnt it? Wader you are absolutely right about the enthusiastic amateur web master, IMO. I think it goes something like this - an organisation has a 'good idea' such as 'we need a web site'. 'Bloggs, go and make one'. Luckily Bloggs finds the enthusiastic amatuer who produces an interesting and, at that moment in time, up to date portal into the organisations activities. Enthusiastic amateur then realises he does not get the resources to maintain the website and loses interest and eventually moves on. In the end the organisation is made to look foolish and the message it sends out is that it cannot be bothered and/or doesnt care (at least that is how it will appear to the internet generation).

only my 2p worth :oh:

Wader2 13th Mar 2007 14:17

Spectre, I forget the actual numbers but we are to get a 'new' website with some 'funky' name and a budget in something like 5-figures. At the same symposium we were told that the Daily Telegraph was putting something like £5m into its website.

Trouble is we see these flashy website and try and emulate them on a shoestring.

Maybe if we went properly commercial and used, for instance, BFBS professionals, to run our corporate comms properly.

In my case the man who prepared my site was not even an enthusiastic amateur. When told to fix it or pull it he confessed that he no longer had access and could not do it.:bored:

spectre150 13th Mar 2007 14:40

I couldn't agree more.:ugh:

Mr C Hinecap 13th Mar 2007 15:03

Is the 3* appointment not to oversee the new Cafe One? They can't have taken some 6 months to re-fit the damned hovel to make it anything less than worthy of 3* command! Anything that will improve the conjoined HQs will be a good thing - but I could care less.

SaddamsLoveChild 13th Mar 2007 15:44

Cafe One? will the incumbent be CinC C1 or just 'Il Numero Uno', I can imagine the banter now............

CAS " what do you think numero uno?"
Il numero Uno " Harumph, Harumph.".............;)

Wader2 13th Mar 2007 15:46

And they don't give receipts either. I prefered the portakabin by the main gate: better doughnuts too.

dallas 13th Mar 2007 15:51


Have heard a rumour that there is to be no more PTC/HQ STC from 1 Apr 07 but a new 'Air Command' with a newly created 3* appt within it. Is this jobs for the senior boys and a waste of hard pressed funding creating new letterheads, business cards and repainting parking places and signs etc etc.

Has there been a formal announcement that I have missed or a statement of the need to change what isnt broken, hasnt the Co-located HQ only just been formed? I must admit I would much rather seebenefit from some more FP/Armour/AT DAS in theatre where it counts rather than a shiney new badge and an extra seat at the Top Table in the Bucks HQ.
I think you're being unfair, SLC, we haven't had a new command in months now. I also think we're missing a trick by not having a Change Command who you can CC: (get it?) all your proposed essential new renames and abbreviations. (I thought the addition of the colon in the logo would be particularly corporate and nineties).

On the up side, I am now dealing with Leaving Command, so don't have to put up with this squandering of resources much longer.

SaddamsLoveChild 13th Mar 2007 16:02

CC Colon?
 
Dallas - Isn't a Colon also the last part of the bowel and hence full of sh*te; maybe appropriate mon brave.

Wader2 13th Mar 2007 16:05

SLC/Dallas, have you seen this? http://f2.org/humour/songs/crs.html

edwardspannerhands 15th Mar 2007 12:32

New Command?
 
Yep - it's official. The IBN has just hit the streets here.:ok:

TheHogwartsBEngO 15th Mar 2007 12:44

any chance of finding a public version of this BN?

Toddington Ted 15th Mar 2007 12:46

Yes, we have just received our briefing notes here too. One of the key messages is that the new Command will "remove barriers", so no more queueing at the main gate for us then!:ok:

dallas 15th Mar 2007 13:05

Removal of Barriers Command? How odd. Or are they saying their job is to replace the other 3,726 other commands, sub-sommands and new HQs that have sprung-up in alleged support of a dwindling number of aircraft?

We must have enough commands for one per aircraft now.

sedburgh 15th Mar 2007 15:42

It's announced on the public web site now: http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/index.cfm...084B5D334DC7B7

TheHogwartsBEngO 15th Mar 2007 15:49

most importantly: will there be a new crest/badge? :eek:

An Teallach 15th Mar 2007 16:03

I had a flick around the site linked above and fell upon 121 EAW.

Apparently, the objectives of re-brigading our forces into EAWs are fourfold:
  • To achieve greater operational synergy, delivering focused operational effects from the outset of a deployment.
  • To generate a more cohesive trained audience.
  • To engender more widely a greater understanding of the capability of air power.
  • To achieve a more inclusive formation identity.
Apart from the fact most of it is in mangled 'management-speak', can anyone explain to this simple soul what "To generate a more cohesive trained audience" means?

Mr C Hinecap 15th Mar 2007 16:36

the EAW concept is a bunch of cake and aerse - and there is very little cake in there. It is not linked properly with anything else and is therefore a method of giving people another badge - and not much more at all. I can't believe alleged 'grown ups' put this yard-and-a-half of contrived poop out without even trying to mask the bus-size holes in it!

Still - if we're getting over the 'conjoined HQ' thing, then it is all rosy.

I don't know anyone at STC who has recourse to speak to anyone on the PTC side of the fence - so making us one big happy family to remove barriers is pretty pointless. Still - Cafe Uno will be AWESOME when it re-opens. :D


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