Originally Posted by ZH875
(Post 3092505)
Please also remember that NOT all pilots are commisioned, Teeny Weenies have NCO Pilots, so they are commisioned into nothing.:ugh: |
Well, a beret makes its wearer look like a paedophile, no matter what one choses to wear below the neck. |
If you read orders it states that flying clothing should only be worn when you are expected to "Fly" if you are on ground duties that day or are defo not flying then you should be in blues!
Funny how few Aircrew you see in blues when they definately haven't been or are going to be flying that day. And as for the beret vs chip/(****) hat lets not even go there, it's uniform it's not meant to be trendy and if you hadn't noticed the chwat hat looks like shyte!!!! |
Originally Posted by toddbabe
(Post 3092855)
If you read orders it states that flying clothing should only be worn when you are expected to "Fly" if you are on ground duties that day or are defo not flying then you should be in blues!
Funny how few Aircrew you see in blues when they definately haven't been or are going to be flying that day. And as for the beret vs chip/(****) hat lets not even go there, it's uniform it's not meant to be trendy and if you hadn't noticed the chwat hat looks like shyte!!!! |
cost to train pilot? - cost to train sparky?
How long to train each to do the others job? Which has the tougher selection process? Wings should be worn whenever circumstances permit. IMHO They've earnt them |
Description of aircrew 'profession': ALM Door Up, door down. cooker on, cooker off. Pilot Gear Up, Gear down, Flaps up, flaps down Flt Eng - Forget them as they are obsolescent. Navigator - follow the pilot in front - (very difficult?) ATC - Talk, eat, talk, drink, talk, eat, talk... Groundcrew - Steps out, CAT 4 A/C, steps away Admin - INTENTIONALLY BLANK |
It's all about image for aircrew, they love parading about in flying suits thinking they are something special.
What is the big deal with the brevets since they changed to generic Wsop? a load of the engineers went harpic and wanted to only wear the old "E" brevet same with the Alms! Nobody is going to forget what job you do on the plane cos you have RAF below your wing instead of Alm or E. Image!!!! |
It's all about image for aircrew, they love parading about in flying suits thinking they are something special. |
Can we get this back into some perspective. People of all 3 services (including RAF aircrew and groundcrew) are being engaged in combat on a daily basis. Some of them are coming back in body backs or without all the body pieces they deployed with.
It does seem incongruous that para wings can be worn but flying badges can't; but, frankly, I don't care about the badges... |
Time flies you might be very surprised! I am just not bothered about my image like the rest of you, it's just a job.
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Originally Posted by threeputt
(Post 3092778)
NO, but it is still a trade badge, just like the 1 or ½ winged aircrew trade badge.
Let me enlighten you, young man, being aircrew is not a trade it is a profession. "Talking down to juniors" switch off. 3P |
Generally the only people who get worked up about the wearing of wings are those who haven't got them. :E
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Aircrew badge (Full or half wing), Para wings, Tech badge, Skill at arms, Commando dagger,Air tech, Air dispatcher, Whatever it is,it's your own hard work and your own choice of trade at the end of the day .....so live with it and stop whinning.........We all wave and fight for the same flag at the end of the day!:hmm:
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Originally Posted by Climebear
(Post 3093003)
It does seem incongruous that para wings can be worn but flying badges can't;
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Time flies you might be very surprised! I am just not bothered about my image like the rest of you, it's just a job. |
Timeflies you have already stated that you think I am an adminer, is this is because I don't conform to your god like worship of the growbag or is it based on your extensive knowledge of other trades within the airforce besides the flying ones?
Me thinks you are speaking from limited experience and have only ever experienced one side of the fence. Image is everything!!!! |
The last time I experienced banter like this was when I was 9. I was in the Cubs and had just got my cooking badge for burning some bangers over a camp fire. I seem to remember I was allowed to wear it on my left upper arm.
However, then I grew up, got a profession and concentrated on more important things. To all those reading this thread and not in the RAF, please do not judge us all on the basis of this. |
Bellendbob,
Well said Sir, its like a "my dads bigger than your dad" scenario, I have had the honour to be entitled to wear a "Badge" for 21 years now, and the only place it appears is on my NO1's, and to be quite honest I don't really care, I Know what I am and I know the hard work that I put in for this "badge", So come on leave the playground behind, and lets all get the job done and get home safely, from wherever we may find ourselves now or in the near future, (with or without badges) :ok: Zofo |
Originally Posted by The Burning Bush
(Post 3093352)
Maybe it's a working dress thing; para wings = probably wearing CS95, pilots wings = probably wearing flying suit.
RAF para qaulified = badges on No1, No2 (jumper), No3, No5 and numerous tropical variants RAF flying badge No1, No2 (jumper), No5, No14 and numerous tropical variants But in the greater scheme of things IT ISN'T IMPORTANT |
But in the greater scheme of things IT ISN'T IMPORTANT[/QUOTE]
He's right, you know. |
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