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ZH875 25th Jun 2006 14:06

I wanted to be RAFP.....






....But I passed the exam!:D


How many buildings/anything are guarded by RAFP, come to think of it, besides getting in the way of life, what do RAFP actually do to earn their pay?.;)

ratty1 25th Jun 2006 14:10


Originally Posted by ZH875

How many buildings/anything are guarded by RAFP, come to think of it, besides getting in the way of life, what do RAFP actually do to earn their pay?.;)

Well cosidering they are on the same high pay band as the techies, I dont suppose they really care what they do................:eek:

Confucius 25th Jun 2006 18:03


Originally Posted by ShyTorque
He said that yesterday the aircraft had an "F" for friend painted on its nose - today it had an "E" for enemy - so he shot it down......
True story!!

You should've told the tw@t that 'F' stood for Foe.

PompeySailor 25th Jun 2006 18:24


Originally Posted by Confucius
You should've told the tw@t that 'F' stood for Foe.

Just be grateful that his phonics books had got as far as letting him recognise that many letters of the alphabet.....

Confucius 25th Jun 2006 20:53

Thought coppers only knew 2 letters?

L O L O L O

...

I'll get me coat.

samos 26th Jun 2006 16:07

Going back to the original thread, why would the RAFP be doing passport and customs checks on helicopters that arrived from Manston?. Maybe thought Manston is overseas because it is on the Isle of Thanet.

Roland Pulfrew 26th Jun 2006 16:25


Originally Posted by samos
Going back to the original thread, why would the RAFP be doing passport and customs checks on helicopters that arrived from Manston?. Maybe thought Manston is overseas because it is on the Isle of Thanet.

Sadly because some idiot has interpreted the new homeland defence rules in a way that Plod must meet any civil flight landing at a military airfield even if the flight took off from a UK airfield.:ugh: :ugh: Now which di****ad thought that one up. They even charge you for attending - as they might have been doing something else at the time, perhaps drinking coffee or watching Sky?!?!

Taxi.Idge 27th Jun 2006 15:30

Whilst serving on the far flung part of the Empire that is 1312, Whooosh 1312, during the amazing Rugby World cup 2004? or was it 03 - too much gin in Incirlik!! The groundies applied for permission to open the now defunct Queen Vic to watch the final v the old enemy that is Oz. Taking into account that the semi was only played some 5 days earlier, OC Police refused the application as it was not recieved the regulation 7 days prior to the event. Imagine loads of happy groundies drinking coke whilst watching one of the finest sporting moments in recent English history. 'The beatings will continue to moral improves'.
Oh just to add to the, 'there are knobs in other trades to' debate, I and the rest of the QRA crew offered to go to the relevant messes and purchase a couple of slabs so the boys could at least have one or two beers. The JENGO, a particularly spineless creature, told us that he would not allow this and would close the bar if we did. Nice one.

I Sp[r]y 7th Jul 2006 19:47

Thanks for the entertaining thread so far....
 
Just a quick Hello Gents (+ PPRuNettes - Nursey et al),

As a serving Plod of 17 years in the RAFP, you have certainly made me smile (wry + genuine) whilst exploring this thread (and no, the GSD didn't read it to me). It's nice to see that this thread is actually developing into an arena of 'banter' - offering retort to some of the more speculative posts made, and probably prolonging the life of the thread. Obviously such an insular environment is a fantastic breeding ground for the finer details of your yarns to 'develop' amidst the congratulatory mutual back-slapping of this online grow bag community - please feel free to log in to one of our own forums and post an article or two..

I'll stop by now and again to see if there's anything of interest to respond to. Whatever is posted is water off a pigs back though, since the big Aviator running the RAF signed off that cheque giving us all (upto Sgt) a payrise in Apr 06 of approx 15%. All those 'jumped up little A/Cpl's wielding their speed guns' with an instant £3-4K payrise..... now that's got to annoy you! :D

Lara crofts pants 7th Jul 2006 20:15

Not really, a lot of us get to fly planes, and get paid loads.

Pristina 7th Jul 2006 20:19

:E

Yes but what do you do when you leave? Traffic wardens!


Originally Posted by I Sp[r]y
Just a quick Hello Gents (+ PPRuNettes - Nursey et al),

As a serving Plod of 17 years in the RAFP, you have certainly made me smile (wry + genuine) whilst exploring this thread (and no, the GSD didn't read it to me). It's nice to see that this thread is actually developing into an arena of 'banter' - offering retort to some of the more speculative posts made, and probably prolonging the life of the thread. Obviously such an insular environment is a fantastic breeding ground for the finer details of your yarns to 'develop' amidst the congratulatory mutual back-slapping of this online grow bag community - please feel free to log in to one of our own forums and post an article or two..

I'll stop by now and again to see if there's anything of interest to respond to. Whatever is posted is water off a pigs back though, since the big Aviator running the RAF signed off that cheque giving us all (upto Sgt) a payrise in Apr 06 of approx 15%. All those 'jumped up little A/Cpl's wielding their speed guns' with an instant £3-4K payrise..... now that's got to annoy you! :D


I Sp[r]y 8th Jul 2006 10:06

Life after plod.....
 

Originally Posted by Pristina
:E

Yes but what do you do when you leave? Traffic wardens!

Only those dedicated to pursuing the Utopian ideals of free flowing highways - the less ambitious of us in the CI / Computer Security world (i.e the community that accredited Typhoon systems - Windows NT ??!!) tend to gravitate toward similar Information Assurance activites when the white cap is finally hung up. Given that the nice chief military aviator now insists we do all those courses that Industry cry out for, the home of the Black and Yellow uniform will remain the Mecca of the idealist reformers amongst us.

It may disappoint you to learn that speed guns and parking tickets do not occupy a full 22 years service - only those 'piglet' years when first venturing out of the sty - when some do indeed take great pleasure in riling the rodneys.:ok:

Shjustme 8th Jul 2006 23:12

Life after Plod in RAF...

One owns and runs a very nice public house near me, one of the cleaning staff is a former Flt Lt WRAF, she was on her knees scrubbing the floor on one occasion I entered the premises.
Another spends 3 days every week in court as a magistrate, dispensing justice.
And also the one who does it just 1 day per week.
Then there is the one who is now a vicar.
2 are senior prison officers in a nearby jail, supervising 4 former master aircrewmen / warrant officers who are (mere) probationers, having joined in the last couple of years.
Oh yes, the one who is an ACC, assisant chief constable north of the Humber river.
Not forgetting the former Cpl who became a Flt Lt before leaving for a government job where he now has command of no less than 14 former commissioned officers RAF/Army who used to have ranks varying from 2nd Lt to Wg Cdr.
The businessman who without the aid of his former patrol dogs from when he walked around a missile site at all hours of the night, now employs over 100 people in a hugely successful little empire. Two staff members are ex Flt Lts, one a navigator, the other a supply officer. They accept that the former Cpl is most definately the man in charge, the boss!
The very well known ex SNCO who for the past few years has had a super job in the caribbean.
And the guy who is hugely successful at providing vitally important 'assets' to the middle east, in the worldwide fight against OBL. As reported in a regional newspaper relatively recently.
I could give you over a hundred examples of ex plods doing rather nicely!!!!!

Zoom 8th Jul 2006 23:23

Yeah, right. How many times in this forum have I seen this sort of make-believe? What the hell have you been smoking?

Skeleton 9th Jul 2006 00:07

My take....
We hated them because of the acting rank. Will someone please tell me why the LAC/SAC was an acting Cpl. Middle of winter many moons ago and a young child dressed as a policeman at Kinloss thought it would be a good idea if he looked hard and told us what to do.
I waited....
2 days...
I hope the barrier on your head hurt Mr 17 year old. Now go and have a chat with your instructor.
Yes they are RAF Policeman, but the days when they were real are long gone.
The rest of the Air Force think your a joke. One trade that certainly could be given over to the NCP.
Why can't you do the gate. Its your job, your nor Inspector Wexford. Instead of picking up the man on the gate who gets paid double what you do for breathing in the wrong direction, or the poor bugger who drives round the peri track at 32 in a 25 on a saturday, why not be secure.
Oh i forgot your lords and masters have told you your important.
Your not.

Roadster280 9th Jul 2006 00:34


Originally Posted by Skeleton

Will someone please tell me why the LAC/SAC was an acting Cpl.

I'm not defending LAC A/(Upd)Cpl Bloggs, but I do know the answer. The lowest NCO rank in the RAF is Cpl. Since the Police HAVE to have superiority over the R&F, then they MUST be Cpls.

In any case, think of who the protagonists are in the weekly NAAFI punchup. LACs, SACs and the odd JT.

I didn't like it, but I do understand it. ****, I'm getting old!!

16 blades 9th Jul 2006 01:49


It may disappoint you to learn that speed guns and parking tickets do not occupy a full 22 years service - only those 'piglet' years when first venturing out of the sty - when some do indeed take great pleasure in riling the rodneys.
I don't get riled by them - but they tend to get somewhat riled when, after blurting out their spiel about "22 in a 20 zone, Sir!", or some similar dastardly accusation, they are told to "F*** off" just before I drive away. The sight of a stunned plod with mouth agape, speechless, disappearing in one's rear view mirror is truly a pleasure...

16B

ZH875 9th Jul 2006 11:22


Originally Posted by Shjustme
Life after Plod in RAF...

One owns and runs a very nice public house near me, one of the cleaning staff is a former Flt Lt WRAF, she was on her knees scrubbing the floor on one occasion I entered the premises.
Another spends 3 days every week in court as a magistrate, dispensing justice.
And also the one who does it just 1 day per week.
Then there is the one who is now a vicar.
2 are senior prison officers in a nearby jail, supervising 4 former master aircrewmen / warrant officers who are (mere) probationers, having joined in the last couple of years.
Oh yes, the one who is an ACC, assisant chief constable north of the Humber river.
Not forgetting the former Cpl who became a Flt Lt before leaving for a government job where he now has command of no less than 14 former commissioned officers RAF/Army who used to have ranks varying from 2nd Lt to Wg Cdr.
The businessman who without the aid of his former patrol dogs from when he walked around a missile site at all hours of the night, now employs over 100 people in a hugely successful little empire. Two staff members are ex Flt Lts, one a navigator, the other a supply officer. They accept that the former Cpl is most definately the man in charge, the boss!
The very well known ex SNCO who for the past few years has had a super job in the caribbean.
And the guy who is hugely successful at providing vitally important 'assets' to the middle east, in the worldwide fight against OBL. As reported in a regional newspaper relatively recently.
I could give you over a hundred examples of ex plods doing rather nicely!!!!!

This may be so, but we will still hate you, no matter how good you are doing for yourself. Once a snowdrop, always a snowdrop.


Another spends 3 days every week in court as a magistrate, dispensing justice.
This may be why :mad: criminals are getting off lightly.


And also the one who does it just 1 day per week.
Must have been a Dog Handler, No dog, No sex![/quote]


Then there is the one who is now a vicar.
Must like wearing the Dog Collar. Seems to me a snowdrop is still lost without some reminder of his brain on a chain.

Shjustme 9th Jul 2006 11:46

Zoom...........the following is specially for your attention......and there are scores more available for you to choke on, and I might happily oblige bringing them to your attention should I have the time at a later date. You might actually recognise Tony's mugshot, in the staff history page, particularly the photos showing him in his DPs prior to him 'moving on to greater things'....Oh yes, there can be a grand life after 'Plod'......

http://www.dragonk9.co.uk/index.html
http://www.dragonk9.co.uk/gallery%2001.html

Maple 01 9th Jul 2006 12:24

So in reality all snowdrops are much smarter that the real airforce and do so much better out?

Like the dog handler done for 'cruelty to an animal' and 'unlawful sexual practices' - could you find out what he's doing now? I'd like to see his post service CV

ACAB

ZH875 9th Jul 2006 12:46

Having been a frequent traveller through the Port Talbot area, I wouldn't have thought that a sniffer dog would be able to smell anything apart from the heavy polution there.

Maybe thats's why we ain't caught Osram Bed Linen yet!.



How many RAFP does it take to change a light bulb....








None... Maybe when they finish grilling it about why it blew without their permission, they may call out the duty electrician. (and their good buddy LAC/ASAC/ACPL(U) Pratt, with his speed gun to make sure the electrician only does 20mph)

I Sp[r]y 9th Jul 2006 15:01


Originally Posted by Skeleton
My take....
Why can't you do the gate. Its your job, your nor Inspector Wexford. Instead of picking up the man on the gate who gets paid double what you do for breathing in the wrong direction, or the poor bugger who drives round the peri track at 32 in a 25 on a saturday, why not be secure.
Oh i forgot your lords and masters have told you your important.
Your not.

Skeleton - you must be a 'hanger-on', and not a pilot surely? Punctuation, grammar and spelling mistakes in every sentence - now that's an achievement!

'Instead of picking up the man on the gate...for breathing in the wrong direction..' - pissed aircrew on their way to fly again? I thought those days had long gone...

I Sp[r]y 9th Jul 2006 15:20


Originally Posted by Maple 01
So in reality all snowdrops are much smarter that the real airforce and do so much better out?

Like the dog handler done for 'cruelty to an animal' and 'unlawful sexual practices' - could you find out what he's doing now? I'd like to see his post service CV

ACAB

All these 'hangers-on' do like having their say!


So come on then Mr AAAAAATC - give us some of the post-RAF success stories of those people in elevated greenhouses - or maybe just detail the back catalogue of crashes / near misses that your people have engineered at the expense of those that should legitimately be voicing the rumours to be countered by us Plod.

AAATCAC

Maple 01 9th Jul 2006 16:54

I do believe I've got a bite - what did happen to that dog handler I Sp[r]y?

Wasn't Gerry Anderson ATC? I know Johnny Ball was, sadly I wasn’t.

You’d have thought you could have done better than just reading my profile which may, or may not be wholly accurate without checking further, but regrettably it’s a fair indication of the investigative techniques of the RAFP

To give you a clue – I used to associate with the people that gave us Geoffrey Prime – let’s not forget he subsequently made Major in the KGB – though I never spoke Russian or did the wiggly amps bit, perhaps the TAC int bit is a giveaway?


Punctuation, grammar and spelling mistakes in every sentence
You mean like a typical Copper's written statement?

It has been my experience that the spelling Nazi rears it's ugly head when someone is losing an argument - so full marks for spelling, but several thousand away for trying to play the edukation card!

Shjustme 9th Jul 2006 17:21

Ah yes, Geoffrey Prime, the chap with many of the identical characteristics and traits to his former colleage, Chf Tech Britain, who after his long holiday at HM's pleasure was elevated / promoted to the lofty and highly responsible position of porter at Grantham railway station.
These two traitors were only posted into their RAF jobs because the commissioned officers supervising them declared that they were splendid chaps, loyal, hard working, honest, absolute integrity, completely trustworthy, etc, etc, etc. (gawd! I feel sick!)
With those sorts of glowing reports, who on earth could possibly deny them the 'necessary chit' to work in the places from where they subsequently sold their country's safety and security?
How many more officers in the RAF are appallingly poor at judging / assessing the staff under their command?
Quite a lot, I think, judging by some of the comments posted by some people on this forum.

movadinkampa747 9th Jul 2006 17:37

http://www.wtv-zone.com/Hahnsflyboys/MWD/mail3.jpg
The brain on a chain writes his handlers ACR's.

Lara crofts pants 9th Jul 2006 18:02


Originally Posted by Shjustme
How many more officers in the RAF are appallingly poor at judging / assessing the staff under their command?
Quite a lot, I think, judging by some of the comments posted by some people on this forum.

Sadly old boy this forum shows that many are indeed very good at judging and assessing, hence the numerous comments that poke fun at the laughable RAFP and all that they stand for.

I await with interest the slightly over eloquent (covering for something) replies.

stevef 9th Jul 2006 18:37

It must grudgingly be said that Shjustme and I sp[r]y are battling bravely in the face of overwhelming odds. We wouldn't have won the Battle of Britain without that sort of spirit! :)

And no, I didn't like snowdrops or their odious SIB colleagues in my blue battledress days.

Maple 01 9th Jul 2006 18:53


With those sorts of glowing reports, who on earth could possibly deny them the 'necessary chit' to work in the places from where they subsequently sold their country's safety and security?
Well not P&SS or the local Gatow RAFP who couldn't spot either of the pedos even after multiple vetting sessions and close 'undercover' surveillance (yes, we knew who they were, long hair, a droopy ‘tash and feeble cover story).

Chf Tech Britain, what was the story with him?

Skeleton 9th Jul 2006 20:55

I Sp[r]y - With my spelling I would be an ideal choice for Policeman, then again I have a brain and a sense of humanity so maybe not.

I Sp[r]y 9th Jul 2006 22:07


Originally Posted by Skeleton
I Sp[r]y - With my spelling I would be an ideal choice for Policeman, then again I have a brain and a sense of humanity so maybe not.

Skeleton - I think I know what you are trying to say. I hope you and Brian are very happy together. By the way, was Brian the ginger sex-change F3 pilot ?

I Sp[r]y 9th Jul 2006 22:19


Originally Posted by Maple 01

You’d have thought you could have done better than just reading my profile which may, or may not be wholly accurate without checking further, but regrettably it’s a fair indication of the investigative techniques of the RAFP

OK - so you don't have the balls to accurately represent yourself - why not put yourself up as a he/she F3 pilot called Brian and go the whole hog? That way you could have a real Skeleton in your cupboard. I await your next cunning ruse Mr Benn....


Originally Posted by Maple 01
...perhaps the TAC int bit is a giveaway?

Nope, I just took 'TAC Int' to mean 'Tea And Coffee' boy for the 'Int' Officers.

Originally Posted by Maple 01

It has been my experience that the spelling Nazi rears it's ugly head when someone is losing an argument

I don't even have to offer a response to that one...... :ugh:

Skeleton 9th Jul 2006 22:31

:ok: LOL Whose Brian? A Snail maybe and I am not getting into Maple's cupboard for anyone!

Good reposte mate.

Maple 01 10th Jul 2006 05:57

With your investigative skills you must have been part of the P&SS team that missed for years the fact that Werner Muttz (PA to Station Commander at Gatow) was a Stazi agent - but hey! Counter Sy is perhaps best left to someone better equiped mentally? - Like the kids from Gatow first school.


OK - so you don't have the balls to accurately represent yourself
LOL! It's a fair cop - when I wrote my profile back in 2002 I was all set for a new and glittering career with NATS - it didn't quite work out like that and I have been unable to edit it since - no one knows why. I have explained that several times, but as you're the new kid on the block I'll forgive you this once – never assume, check old boy ! They (hopefully) taught you that at Newton - they did, didn't they? I notice you haven't even given the sligest hint about yourself on your profile - something to do with balls I believe you said?

Following your detective skills and going off what little information you name give us I assume you spent your time inventing the old 'spry crisp and dry' ad from the 1980s - no? A copper and not heard of TAC int? - figures, almost as bright as the one that couldn't handle manifold combination changes and used to get me to do it!

Have you put the spelling Nazi to bed now and are perhaps a little embarrassed for trying that old chestnut? - never mind mate, I'm sure no-one will see through your bluster

I Sp[r]y 10th Jul 2006 06:25


Originally Posted by Comrade Mable 01
With your investigative skills you must have been part of the P&SS team that missed for years the fact that Werner Muttz (PA to Station Commander at Gatow) was a Stazi agent - but hey! Counter Sy is perhaps best left to someone else? - Like the kids from Gatow first school.

Following your detective skills I assume you spent your time inventing the old 'spry crisp and dry' ad from the 1980s - no? A copper and not heard of TAC int? - figures, almost as bright as the one that couldn't handle manifold combination changes and used to get me to do it!

Have you put the spelling Nazi to bed now and are perhaps a little embarrassed for trying that old chestnut? - never mind mate, I'm sure no-one will see through your bluster

OOO Mable! I hope that your specially tailored G-suit (gender realigned suit) hasn't been too ruffled! You're definitely no Poirot though - I've only made a couple of postings so it shouldn't be too difficult for you - but let me help you out.... 2006 - 17 = 1989. Unfortunately, I was still in the Sty whilst you were doing your best to prolong the collapse of the wall and your Comrades regime.

As to my profile - well again, I told you exactly what I do if you look on page 11 of this thread.
(PS Mable - I happen to have read the unedited rant you originally made at 0554 hrs before you tried to inject a little humour to it !!!)

Anyhow - enough of this - any real pilots about in here?

Maple 01 10th Jul 2006 06:28

:ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :{ :{ :{ :) :) :)

Kids hu? Sorry, thought you were an adult


PS Mable - I happen to have read the unedited rant you originally made at 0554 hrs before you tried to inject a little humour to it !!!)
And that worries me how kiddo?

As the great social commentator Rick once said


The People's Poem (Flood)
What do you think you're doing, pig?
Do you really give a fig, pig?
And what's your favourite sort of gig, pig?
Barry Manilow
Or the black and white minstrel show?
edited for lack of humour

jonny5 10th Jul 2006 10:10

Just to reiterate, we really don't give a monkeys what you plodders do after because your life has already been wasted playing with speed guns and dogs! Just tell a chick you were a plod, she will NOT be impressed. Tell them you were and probably still are a pilot, game on!!:E

Lara crofts pants 10th Jul 2006 10:31


Originally Posted by I Sp[r]y
Anyhow - enough of this - any real pilots about in here?

Yes, plenty of us thanks, and we all think you are oxygen thieves too.

Tombstone 10th Jul 2006 11:01

Oxygen thieves and :mad: Kn*bs.

How anybody could suffer 17 years as a plastic scuffer is beyond me! :ugh:

You can bang on all day Sp[r]y, we'll still loathe you at the end of it...

terry towelling 10th Jul 2006 15:28

Hey green slime boy. (you call yourself a bloke?!! - FREAK)
Full marks to you for trying to write clever replies, but as usual, full of your own self importance. I refer you to your remarks in post 226 "playing the education card". Remind yourself of what you wrote in post 85!! You're in danger of disappearing up your own ars:mad: le!!
You've left the mob , now let it go, stop clinging on to what you had or is this all you've got? "Nurse, it's time to empty his bag!" (this also applies to the rest of you sand baggers!!)


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