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glad rag 7th Feb 2018 14:15

Oh man, look at those cavemen go...
 
Just imagine if we had spent the costs of this and the ongoing [it'll be ready with some more £x10^8] F35 program on say something inspirational for the nations youth.....something that actually makes money into the bargain..

https://smarthphonechoise.com/wp-con...es-735x400.png

Defence need a massive shake up?

No it needs a bootstrap restart from the very top down.

Thomas coupling 7th Feb 2018 14:43

This SpaceX success story must be the biggest and best PR advert ever. You gotta give it to Elon Musk, he has cracked a very very big nut and has just opened the gateway to major competition now that Musk has done all the hard work for them.

Very best wishes to him and EVERY success for transforming the way we do things.

Just look at that picture - says it all.

57mm 7th Feb 2018 18:37

If the Tesla is in a near vacuum, how come the tyres don't explode?

ImageGear 7th Feb 2018 19:18

Gladrag,

I understand your sentiments completely but...

A bootstrap normally requires a hardware forced reset of the memory address register to point to a location which has a low order value. After which, execution of progressively more complex routines take the operating system memory address into higher order memory space.

In other words a bottom up process. :ok:

IG

Donkey497 7th Feb 2018 20:52

you'd be surprised at how many pressure retaining structures don't catastrophically fail when they only see another 15psi differential,,,,,,

Obi Wan Russell 7th Feb 2018 21:05

Who said the tyres were left inflated before launch? Tyres have very rigid structure and as long as they aren't keeping the weight of the car off the ground they will happily hold their shape.

glad rag 7th Feb 2018 23:23


Originally Posted by ImageGear (Post 10045277)
Gladrag,

I understand your sentiments completely but...

A bootstrap normally requires a hardware forced reset of the memory address register to point to a location which has a low order value. After which, execution of progressively more complex routines take the operating system memory address into higher order memory space.

In other words a bottom up process. :ok:

IG

:ok: It's been a while...

airsound 8th Feb 2018 13:54

If you think the UK is the only one having carrier development problems, here's a report from Bloomberg on the USS Gerald R Ford - currently due to achieve "initial combat duty" in 2022, and at least 3 years behind schedule. Apparently they now want to delay 'shock testing' the ship for 6 years.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...tliest-carrier

airsound

Heathrow Harry 9th Feb 2018 10:54

matter of judgement really - you could extend a Nimitz, or take the risk that the test will either damage something (or worse) show some basic flaws or hope the Chinese don't carry out the testing for you for free before 2025

Frostchamber 9th Feb 2018 15:51


Originally Posted by airsound (Post 10046134)
If you think the UK is the only one having carrier development problems, here's a report from Bloomberg on the USS Gerald R Ford - currently due to achieve "initial combat duty" in 2022, and at least 3 years behind schedule. Apparently they now want to delay 'shock testing' the ship for 6 years.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...tliest-carrier

airsound


Interesting to see the US issues, although I'd argue that the UK isn't having carrier development problems, because everything seems to be going to plan at present. Huge, complex prototype of a ship and the main issue to emerge in contractors trials was a dodgy propshaft seal, quickly fixed. RW trials currently under way on schedule, FW trials on schedule for later this year as planned.

Brat 10th Feb 2018 10:34

Sea trials in Biscay while it was on it’s way to Gib.
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-an...d-in-qe-hangar

And a run ashore.
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-an...s-in-gibraltar

WE Branch Fanatic 10th Feb 2018 11:04

On HER way.....

airsound 10th Feb 2018 11:54


On HER way.....
And even if she were an it, Brat, your first line should read on its way, not on it's way.
PEDANT off

Thanks for the links, though! Great pic of a Chinny overhanging the edge of the lift. That would have been quite difficult with lifts in the middle of the deck.

airsound

pr00ne 10th Feb 2018 13:02

WEBF,

IT is a 65,000 ton collection of steel, alloys, plastic, systems and fluids, crewed by males and females.

So just why do you think it is female? It does NOT have a gender!

George K Lee 10th Feb 2018 13:13

Tut tut... you have to ask the ship for the right pronoun to use.

pr00ne 10th Feb 2018 13:23

George K Lee,

Of course, how true, and very remiss of me!!

WE Branch Fanatic 10th Feb 2018 13:50


Originally Posted by pr00ne (Post 10048477)
WEBF,

IT is a 65,000 ton collection of steel, alloys, plastic, systems and fluids, crewed by males and females.

So just why do you think it is female? It does NOT have a gender!

Centuries of nautical tradition is that ships are female. The linked pages from the RN site use terms such as 'she' and 'her'.

Frostchamber 10th Feb 2018 14:26

If you struggle with that, you'll love the fact that Prince of Wales will be a she too :). Perhaps they're better described as trans - in keeping with the times...

etudiant 10th Feb 2018 22:37


Originally Posted by WE Branch Fanatic (Post 10048534)
Centuries of nautical tradition is that ships are female. The linked pages from the RN site use terms such as 'she' and 'her'.

The opposite is true in French.

[email protected] 13th Feb 2018 15:12


Actually, exceptions are often made for crabs and (some) WAFUs.
so the RN are happy to be referred to as 'she' and you make exceptions that crabs and some WAFUs are 'he' - seems fair to me for a force that says 'It doesn't count after more than 2 days at sea' ducky;)


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