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jolihokistix 19th Dec 2017 07:59

Nothing wrong with a little seawater sloshing around in the bilges.

Bigpants 19th Dec 2017 08:05

Well they have at least four years to fix the leak before HMS White Elephant becomes fully operational.

Heathrow Harry 19th Dec 2017 08:43

Prop shaft seals are notoriously hard to get right. Until you test hard at sea in actual loadings its hard to predict degree and mode of flexing

roving 19th Dec 2017 08:59

It was enamel paint accidentally spilled during painting, which blocked the test cock on one of the inner tube doors which sank the submarine HMS Thetis in 1939 whilst undergoing sea trials off the North West coast.

Nige321 19th Dec 2017 09:15


Originally Posted by roving (Post 9994966)
It was enamel paint accidentally spilled during painting, which blocked the test cock on one of the inner tube doors which sank the submarine HMS Thetis in 1939 whilst undergoing sea trials off the North West coast.

What on earth does that have to do with the QE...??

Just a spotter 19th Dec 2017 09:50

Will the repair require some special force and a Navy Seal?

No, don't get up ... I'll let myself out.

:}

JAS

ImageGear 19th Dec 2017 10:04

"Just enough water to keep her sweet" as the Salesman said but 200 litres an hour? Presumably it's being pumped over the side with a little bit of bunker oil to "sweeten" it.!!!

Imagegear

SASless 19th Dec 2017 12:26

What kind of Warranty was provided.....is it watertight!

Jimlad1 19th Dec 2017 12:39

Shock news that ship takes in small amount of water, as does every other ship built in entirety of human existence...

roving 19th Dec 2017 12:43


Originally Posted by Nige321 (Post 9994982)
What on earth does that have to do with the QE...??

The point may be too subtle. The example I gave demonstrates that no matter how much care is taken when building these sea going vessels, they may require repairs/modifications during or following sea trials to make them water tight. The submarine was raised, renamed and was used during the War.

Heathrow Harry 19th Dec 2017 18:07

Roving is right... up to a point

Sea trials are to test things you cant test in the dockyard.

IIRC the "Dreadnaught" almost finished up doing ever decreasing circles in mi Atlantic on her trials in ?1906

Frostchamber 19th Dec 2017 20:39

Great news. We build a huge complex prototype to a completely untried design and the most serious problem to emerge in trials appears to be a dodgy propshaft seal. BZ to all concerned.

Tankertrashnav 19th Dec 2017 22:50

Leaking at 200 litres an hour - sounds a lot

Converts to 6 pints a minute. An AB with a jug could deal with that!

Heathrow Harry 20th Dec 2017 11:24

This mornings Times says every british destroyer, frigate & Cv is in port right now in the UK.......

Not_a_boffin 20th Dec 2017 12:05

Perhaps the Times has neglected to consider the time of year.


As it has also neglected to consider that with the exceptions below, pretty much all UK forces are currently at their "home" locations.


There's something like 8 or 9 ships/subs deployed worldwide, the army presence in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Baltics and the Akrotiri-based contribution to Shader.

SASless 20th Dec 2017 12:08

Operational commitments end for a Fortnight at Christmas do they?

Heathrow Harry 20th Dec 2017 12:17

Many of them seem to be buggered TBH............

Not_a_boffin 20th Dec 2017 12:23


Originally Posted by SASless (Post 9996182)
Operational commitments end for a Fortnight at Christmas do they?


Go right ahead and identify those requiring a deployed DD/FF or major warship at this particular moment.....


The operational commitments that need to be filled at this precise moment are filled. I think they call it programming....

Not_a_boffin 20th Dec 2017 12:26


Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry (Post 9996187)
Many of them seem to be b8ggered TBH............



Have you been frequenting those establishments again?

ORAC 20th Dec 2017 12:34

Well there are the Antarctic patrol, Falklands patrol and Atlantic patrol; of which the Antarctic survey ship can fulfill one, but not all three. Plus there is the Gulf patrol. At home there is the FRE/TAPS, but it is difficult to assess if any of those in port are at a readiness to fulfill the role.

https://publications.parliament.uk/p.../221/22113.htm


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