US Army Warrants
 

I have asked this question elsewhere but havent recieved a sensible answer yet.

Have any US warrants had any problems with the Brits concerning our rank? They don't understand we're officers.

Anyone else had the same problem?

Err, WO1 funnily enough.

I remember a US Army UH60 WO pilot flew into RAF Bruggen and I booked him into the Sergeants', not the Officers' Mess for his accommodation.
No complaints at all from him. I think he was grateful for somewhere to put his head (and happy hour).

God Bless.

So British NCOs should salute a US Army WO1.

Most Warrants Officers I know are on their own planet anyway, one way or another.
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Several years ago whilst stationed at Rheindahlen I made a trip to Ramstein with some colleague SNCO's. On arrival at the base, the Top Graders receptionist saw on my RAF F1250 ID that I was a WO and directed me to the BOQ.

Never lived it down....mind you, excellent room, even had a fridge and TV.

Its one of those anomalies that will forever differentiate the NATO forces rank structure.

Personally I always thought being a WO gave you the best of both worlds.

Live with it buddy, remember....when you commission something you bring it in to service...when you warrant something its guaranteed!!

Incoming!!!!!!!!!!

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I thought it was the commission that was saluted.

Sounds like a one fingered salute would definately be the most appropriate kind in this particular situation.:rolleyes:

I think the "new" in the handle is a bit of a give away.......delusions of grandeur methinks:rolleyes:

all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced

I would have difficulty saluting a US Army anything.

We hold Officer status so NCOs should salute. Why do you guys have a problem with this?

But we are not 'Enlisted' either. So we do hold Officer status. US enlisted ranks salute Warrant ranks. My question was why Brits have a problem with this.

I take it, chap, that you are a newly graduated helicopter pilot in the US Army?
If so, you are the US equivalent of British Army Corporal.
No I wouldn't salute a US Army WO1, and I don't have a problem with that. Sounds like you do though.

Perhaps the easiest way to explain it to you as follows:

1. British NCOs and airmen DO NOT salute British Warrant Officers

2. You are officially equivalent to a British Warrant Officer

Ergo,

British NCOs and airmen DO NOT salute you!

So get over it!!!

Wrong place to ask then...

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US Army Warrant Officers ARE NOT equivilent to Brit Warrants.

As a WO1, I'm not a Commissioned Officer but I am an appointed Officer (by Warrant) and a member of the O Club. On promotion to CW2, I will receive a Commission, so I'll be a Commissioned Warrant Officer.

And on saluting:

According to regulations, while in uniform, enlisted personnel should salute any Commissioned or Warrant Officer in any branch of the US Uniformed Services:

-US Army
-US Air Force
-US Navy
-US Marine Corps
-US Coast Guard
-US Public Health Service Commissioned Corps
-National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Commissioned Corps

That would go for all other friendly forces too.

Again, why do Brits have a problem with this?

So why do you feel you need to treated as one and be saluted!.

Do you salute Civil Airline Pilots with the 'Rank' of Captain.?

Perhaps you Yanks also salute Railway Station Masters, Lift Attendants, Chauffers, and anyone else in a mickey mouse uniform.

It's 'cos we get confused with your rank badge. Looks very similar to a trainee in a UK McDonalds.:}

Fella, you sound like you are looking for salutes when most of us go out of our way to avoid throwing one up.

Same old, same old. If you ever have to ask other people how important you are, the answer is usually "not very", and if you ever have to use those immortal words "but my rank is equivalent to..." you a clearly sufffering from SPS (small penis syndrome). It's clearly not your fault you are in a state of limbo between the accepted social strata, have you ever thought of applying for a commission old chap?

If you really have a problem with it, the next time some Brits fail to salute you, go over to them, and in an officer like manner take them to task for it. You will get either:

a. A salute (very small chance, and they will only be taking the pi$$)
b. A fat lip (highly probable and warranted - no pun intended)
c. Howls of laughter (somewhat probable)