They realized you weren't a real officer?

Ah, Darth...another one that does not get it....we are...as much as the Upper Classes hate it....once the old pen goes to the paper on SecArmy's desk....we get our admission ticket to the Garden of Eden....then a year later upon promotion....we then become commissioned officers as well... all the while being Warrant Officers. Kinda like a marriage between the Orange and Green....in a way.

After a fashion....I think it is a big joke being played....by who and on whom I do not know...but it is fairly comical when one stands back and watches the discussion.

Wonderful comment - I salute you! :)

SASless,
think you're being rather disingenuous making this statement. Not one single comment was made about you being a WO. The only pouncing had to do with your story re. the cowboy boots, as I'm sure you're well aware.

As for "Upper Classes", isn't that why WOs are now commissioned in the US Army, because your own upper classes didn't think you were qualified, or some such, to be Officers?

But how can you be an officer, old chap?

I bet you don't even know the correct spoon to use to force recalcitrant turds out of your arse after days on field rations...

Thinking of non entitled personnel using Messes, I was at Whale Island a few years ago when some CCF PO's (i.e. 15yr olds) turned up at the PO's mess on the island and asked for a beer.

They couldn't understand that Cadet PO isn't the same as real PO :D

I have rather enjoyed this thread but I have a question, if I may presume? Why did our colonial cousins feel it necesary to make WOs "officers"?

Darth,

one should know, that to be truly effective, one must use the salad fork...chilled.:ok: Butt, that may be for another thread.:}

SH would use a sharp stick, obviously. ;)

Not the pointed stick? Maybe the soft cushion, or comfy chair?:E

Effortless said,
Isn't this a different paradigm to the one used by those systems derived from the British military?

I have always equated a US Army WO with an equivalent officer rank and treated them accordingly in terms of privelege.

WO1 = 2LT
CW2 = LT
CW3 = CAPT
CW4 = MAJ
CW5 = LTCOL give or take.

And they are, after all, employed for their technical proficiency much the same way that specialist RAF aircrew are employed. (Now there's a thought, why are RAF spec aircrew commissioned? Seems to me that the AAC has got it right.)

Finally, I guess they earned the right to use whatever rank system they wanted to after beating you last time round...

To jump back to the original question on this thread, does the above post mean that a major should salute a CW5 in the US? (He asked disingenuously.)
;) :E

That wasn't the original question. But my disingenuous response would be no more than one should salute an air force officer. :p

Cheeky, disingenuous buggers!;)

Now Huron....you got American Warrant Officers figgered out finally....we are all of that!:ok:

W-1 equals a 2nd Lt in pay (roughly)
CW2 a 1st LT
CW3 a Capt
CW4 a Major
CW5 a LT Col

but all are junior to 2nd Lt's in rank....but Woe be the 2nd Lt that really believes that! Let him tangle with a 4 or 5....and see who comes up short on hind end.

WO1 = brand new grunt
CW2 = grunt
CW3 = old grunt
CW4 = bitter old grunt
CW5 = rich, senile old grunt

And the only salute any of the low class bug.gers deserve is an extended middle finger....

:p

"And the only salute any of the low class bug.gers deserve is an extended middle finger...."

I'll bet you got your ass kicked a lot at the O club didn't you?

He may be senile, but he ain't rich on what Uncle Sam pays.

Beags....we thrive on that kind of treatment....and usually double it in kind....thus two upraised fingers in salute! Where's the beer?:ok:

"Where's the beer"

Is that the warm real beer that we drink over here or the ice cold pish you serve up over there...................lets see you spin a credible counter to that :p

all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced

When it comes to beer....I am definitely on the side of the British. However since you guys have gotten central heating....room temperature beer is way too warm. I still prefer a bit of frost on the outside of the glass.