New Hawks for RAF (Merged)
FFP.
Don't tell me you even bothered with the CBT's?! I think I now know why there are a few gaps in my knowledge!
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TSE.
Greetings from over here. Trust things are well. They'll still be some 115's left when it's your turn! PM me to let me know how you're getting on.
Don't tell me you even bothered with the CBT's?! I think I now know why there are a few gaps in my knowledge!
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TSE.
Greetings from over here. Trust things are well. They'll still be some 115's left when it's your turn! PM me to let me know how you're getting on.
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Hawk 127 has 3 displays in the rear, with no HUD. The centre display is up on the glare shield. The rear displays are capable of slaved or independent operation - the centre seperate from the remaining two (eg centre independent, L/R slaved to front or any combo). This is achieved by having 2 Display & Mission Computers, with the front (Primary DMC) having a graphics generator for the HUD attached.
The top centre MFD is usually on independent with the HUD display up. When attempting to teach guns tracking or monitoring V.V. placement etc, camera can be selected (damn hard to see the bandit - cue excuses to Bloggs about difficulty tracking etc!!). Having flown the 339 with a HUD, I'd prefer to have one in the Hawk as well and move the centre display back down to the instrument panel.
The Hawk 127 is a good training aircraft, but it still needs to mature. Some of the key presses or sequences to do a simple task are very long winded and are not logical. We're getting there but as usual contractual issues get in the way.
Other things: Do other Hawk operators have problems with rear cockpit noise particularly when at high IAS, and then going to idle? This one does.
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God, is that you?
Fine Creamie technique there. Are you currently impressing the local ladies with your robust event technique? Is Minime still in the house? Is the douche working you hard?
As you can imagine, my roommates' toilet habits have not changed. I like to call it the 'dawn chorus'.
"Here's what we'll do...."
As you can imagine, my roommates' toilet habits have not changed. I like to call it the 'dawn chorus'.
"Here's what we'll do...."
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CBT`s . . . .. . . . . no . . . . .. . . . . . .Used the laptop to full advantage for PPrune and e mail though !!!
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Have one at Moons for me and a $72 deluxe suite at the Westin in Edm too !!
May know each other from the V place . . . ..
Have one at Moons for me and a $72 deluxe suite at the Westin in Edm too !!
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BAES
Sorry to slash on the bonfire here but is everyone forgetting how often we are let down by our own flagship defence contractor?
The chances are it will be late, it will be more expensive and bits won't work as adverised. History has a habit of repeating itself.
I'm all for safeguarding jobs but how many more times do we have to shoot ourselves in the foot? I hope this particular procurement is more tightly controlled than the more recent ones.
(But hey, if someone gets an extra stripe to top up the pension pot then what the hell............?)
Ray (cynic)
The chances are it will be late, it will be more expensive and bits won't work as adverised. History has a habit of repeating itself.
I'm all for safeguarding jobs but how many more times do we have to shoot ourselves in the foot? I hope this particular procurement is more tightly controlled than the more recent ones.
(But hey, if someone gets an extra stripe to top up the pension pot then what the hell............?)
Ray (cynic)
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As one who has spent many (more than 10) years flight-testing this splendid aircraft I can say that unfortunately you are confusing the performance of BWOS as whole when in fact the problem is at its 'jewel in the crown' (hint its near Morecombe). When Hawks were produced from their original birth place, they worked and were delivered on time or even earlier - War role mod springs to mind. Unfortunately we do not have the benefit of that little nugget any more - progress I'm afraid.
BWOS Exec Multichoice
You have, after months of intensive lobbying, grovelling, wrapping yourself in the Union Jack, threatening to close everything etc, secured a vast contract to supply aeroplanes to the RAF. Do you -
a) Do everything possible to deliver the goods on time and on budget.
b) Do your best but - unfortunately - run slightly over the contract price.
c) Promise much, but immediately the contract is signed start briefing the press that it's too difficult. Say it's impossible to do the job for the money you agreed to. Beg the MOD for more money.
d) Until the deadline for delivery is staring you in the face, declare that everything is fine. Then suddenly announce that you can't make the wings fit. Demand £800 million more from the MoD. Offer instead to deliver half the number of aircraft with 2 wings between every three airframes and no guns, in 2009. Tell all your workers they're going to be sacked in 90 days' time unless the government pays up. Settle for £100 million more. 1 day after the government cheque clears, announce the hugely lucrative foreign order (to be produced by the workers you threatened to sack last week) you've signed but were keeping under your hat until the MoD coughed up.
a) Do everything possible to deliver the goods on time and on budget.
b) Do your best but - unfortunately - run slightly over the contract price.
c) Promise much, but immediately the contract is signed start briefing the press that it's too difficult. Say it's impossible to do the job for the money you agreed to. Beg the MOD for more money.
d) Until the deadline for delivery is staring you in the face, declare that everything is fine. Then suddenly announce that you can't make the wings fit. Demand £800 million more from the MoD. Offer instead to deliver half the number of aircraft with 2 wings between every three airframes and no guns, in 2009. Tell all your workers they're going to be sacked in 90 days' time unless the government pays up. Settle for £100 million more. 1 day after the government cheque clears, announce the hugely lucrative foreign order (to be produced by the workers you threatened to sack last week) you've signed but were keeping under your hat until the MoD coughed up.
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Just driven the Execs Vauxhall Corsa. Diesel, no power steering, radio removed, dodgy rear axle... still it was value for money and it was at least the best small car available at the time, it won its fleet purchase contract purchase in a fair competition......
Surely we wouldn't purchase another 30 year old model on the basis that the radio doesn't work and it's available in black?
On 2nd thoughts, if they could just bring it into service at Chivenor.........
Surely we wouldn't purchase another 30 year old model on the basis that the radio doesn't work and it's available in black?
On 2nd thoughts, if they could just bring it into service at Chivenor.........
Deal of the century
That mate's rates special Corsa deal is fine if you only drive cars. When it breaks down, pull over to the side of the road, and call AA on your trusty cheap mobile phone.
Stepping out of a jet when it breaks down is a slightly bigger deal.
NB. I am not having a go at the Hawk or BAe, am just questioning Rolland Sizzers' logic for saving money.
By the way, can you operate a Hawk on Diesel with no Hydraulic services or Radios, and a dodgy rear axle?
Stepping out of a jet when it breaks down is a slightly bigger deal.
NB. I am not having a go at the Hawk or BAe, am just questioning Rolland Sizzers' logic for saving money.
By the way, can you operate a Hawk on Diesel with no Hydraulic services or Radios, and a dodgy rear axle?
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Just driven the Execs Vauxhall Corsa. Diesel, no power steering, radio removed, dodgy rear axle...
