Kipper fleet macho, chauvinist and tribal
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She pinned me up against a wall and stuck her tongue in my mouth outside a night club many years ago when I was obviously incapable of any discrimination or rational thought due to some overindulgence on Mr (or Ms) Artois' special potion.
I think I'll sue her retrospectively for harassment and give all the money back to the MOD. Looks like they (still) need all the help they can get to combat claims like this...
PS Hello again, everyone
I think I'll sue her retrospectively for harassment and give all the money back to the MOD. Looks like they (still) need all the help they can get to combat claims like this...
PS Hello again, everyone
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The infamous abort call
The question was asked above: Did she call abort above V1? Yes, she did. It was documented in an IR which is probably available in an FS archive somewhere. But, she was an OCU student in the RHS at the time and there should be an element of mitigation in that. Not being a pilot, I wouldn't know how much multi-engine training, involving practical use of the V1 concept, is given to ab initio pilots prior to their OCUs.
The QFI was clearly at fault when he reacted to her call.
The QFI was clearly at fault when he reacted to her call.
DPH -I don't know about the Nimrod OCU, but the take-off 'words and hands' sequence is drilled into new VC10 pilots until it is second nature... (Can one say 'drilled' without some daft tart getting sulky?)
The only time 'abort' might ever be called above V1 is if there is a real and genuine doubt that the ac will not fly and the alternative runway overrun seems the only possible option. Highly unlikely - but if you ingested half a zillion $hitehawks down 3 engines at V1 plus 5 knots, a totally non-SOP 'abort' call might possibly save the day whereas sitting like confused rabbits might not. Nor would attempting to stagger off on 1 out of 4 donks.
An 'abort' call given by a student above V1 in the simulator is quite probable. Because that's wherE we used to let them learn from their mistakes. Do it once and they'd probably be hot-debriefed and re-pos'd at take-off, no comment in their write up. It's training, they're not 100% perfect. But make a habit of it and they'd probably be on review.
But a spurious 'abort' call above V1 in a real ac was something I never came across in 20 years on the VC10.
The only time 'abort' might ever be called above V1 is if there is a real and genuine doubt that the ac will not fly and the alternative runway overrun seems the only possible option. Highly unlikely - but if you ingested half a zillion $hitehawks down 3 engines at V1 plus 5 knots, a totally non-SOP 'abort' call might possibly save the day whereas sitting like confused rabbits might not. Nor would attempting to stagger off on 1 out of 4 donks.
An 'abort' call given by a student above V1 in the simulator is quite probable. Because that's wherE we used to let them learn from their mistakes. Do it once and they'd probably be hot-debriefed and re-pos'd at take-off, no comment in their write up. It's training, they're not 100% perfect. But make a habit of it and they'd probably be on review.
But a spurious 'abort' call above V1 in a real ac was something I never came across in 20 years on the VC10.
Last edited by BEagle; 11th Feb 2004 at 21:38.
