Shocking example of low flying
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It's a bit deceptive as the ground slopes away a bit there but the pilot would have been down around 30-50 ft on that part of his run. A Canberra had a wing span of 64 ft, maybe that will give you some sort of clue.
It's a bit deceptive as the ground slopes away a bit there but the pilot would have been down around 30-50 ft on that part of his run. A Canberra had a wing span of 64 ft, maybe that will give you some sort of clue.
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Beeayeate pleased to help. Disregard later email - as my fix was right!
In answer to various points, T&B has it right. We all had a free Corolla and free petrol (N.Am: gas). Wouldn't want to waste one's pride and joy in that environment ------ after all, you never knew who might drop in
. Actually, most of us in the north had one each, but I won't go down that route now!
T_richard, no tricks. That was the genuine plot. As an innocent bystander it wouldn't be right to detail the complete story, that's someone else's perogative. I only started out to clarify the location from SD's earlier link, but my keyboard started running away! Actually, (here it goes again - I hate it when it does that) he didn't have to pull up to get over the car. They'd just passed the preceding one. Unfortunately, stick back=tail down, before climb. It was the stern that hit the car. A second later probably would have avoided contact.
As witchdoctor surmises, it was standard practice to target the DP's car on the way back to base - indeed something of a ritual, I recall.
Fighter Affil with these guys was a splendid challenge for us "truckies" and I used to liken it to a gentlemen's grouse-shooting weekend. The Commander's principle was that he "didn't want us to start practising for war the day after it had started." Someone has emailed me a superb bunch of SOAF Jag shots. It includes one of my personal favourites - the one "that came off the range with more bits attached than when it started." I am just waiting to hear whether he wants me to post them, or use my host site as a link for his own posts. Watch this space.
Meanwhile, to show that the big boys (wingspan 132' 6" - for those unfamilliar) partook with equal vigour, here's one of my flypasts for a Para Regt graduation parade. Alas, poor qual, taken from video. Sedate 270 kts, of course - none of Scroggs's Vne hooliganism
. Sadly, the shot of a pair of Hunters overtaking below the Herc, at another location, is not available.
Obviously had to keep it high to avoid blowing the pongos over - off-screen, left
In answer to various points, T&B has it right. We all had a free Corolla and free petrol (N.Am: gas). Wouldn't want to waste one's pride and joy in that environment ------ after all, you never knew who might drop in
. Actually, most of us in the north had one each, but I won't go down that route now!T_richard, no tricks. That was the genuine plot. As an innocent bystander it wouldn't be right to detail the complete story, that's someone else's perogative. I only started out to clarify the location from SD's earlier link, but my keyboard started running away! Actually, (here it goes again - I hate it when it does that) he didn't have to pull up to get over the car. They'd just passed the preceding one. Unfortunately, stick back=tail down, before climb. It was the stern that hit the car. A second later probably would have avoided contact.
As witchdoctor surmises, it was standard practice to target the DP's car on the way back to base - indeed something of a ritual, I recall.
Fighter Affil with these guys was a splendid challenge for us "truckies" and I used to liken it to a gentlemen's grouse-shooting weekend. The Commander's principle was that he "didn't want us to start practising for war the day after it had started." Someone has emailed me a superb bunch of SOAF Jag shots. It includes one of my personal favourites - the one "that came off the range with more bits attached than when it started." I am just waiting to hear whether he wants me to post them, or use my host site as a link for his own posts. Watch this space.
Meanwhile, to show that the big boys (wingspan 132' 6" - for those unfamilliar) partook with equal vigour, here's one of my flypasts for a Para Regt graduation parade. Alas, poor qual, taken from video. Sedate 270 kts, of course - none of Scroggs's Vne hooliganism
. Sadly, the shot of a pair of Hunters overtaking below the Herc, at another location, is not available.Obviously had to keep it high to avoid blowing the pongos over - off-screen, left
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Someone is clever at editing photographs!
The two canberra shots are fake! (But keep up the good work)
Look carefully at the cockpit canopies. Both have the "fighter" style canopy (not the "bubble") which should be offset to the left (or port) side of the fuselage.
The second photo has the canopy on the correct side, the first has the canopy on the right (starboard) side.
The two aircraft are mirror images!
I've been faking photo's for years, it's a great hobby and has been an amazing way to break the ice at meetings.
By the way, has anyone seen the footage of the Bucc doing a low pass between a line of hangars? It's something that has stuck in my mind since I were a lad. Also I'd like to see some GENUINE photos of low flying vulcans.
The two canberra shots are fake! (But keep up the good work)
Look carefully at the cockpit canopies. Both have the "fighter" style canopy (not the "bubble") which should be offset to the left (or port) side of the fuselage.
The second photo has the canopy on the correct side, the first has the canopy on the right (starboard) side.
The two aircraft are mirror images!
I've been faking photo's for years, it's a great hobby and has been an amazing way to break the ice at meetings.
By the way, has anyone seen the footage of the Bucc doing a low pass between a line of hangars? It's something that has stuck in my mind since I were a lad. Also I'd like to see some GENUINE photos of low flying vulcans.
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Brilliant pic SD, but now I'm curious, and maybe someone can help out; is the shockwave off the trailing edge bigger because the trailing edge itself is bigger, or because the trailing edge went supersonic first?
If so, is this due to airframe stretch?
Or can it be explained by the change in the speed of sound brought about by the reduction in air density over the upper surface of the airfoil?
I'm genuinely curious.
If so, is this due to airframe stretch?
Or can it be explained by the change in the speed of sound brought about by the reduction in air density over the upper surface of the airfoil?
I'm genuinely curious.
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You are absolutely right! Not about the pics being fakes, but about the orientation of the Can heading at the tents - it was printed out reversed!
I scanned these, and others on my Coolscan thingy, from slides supplied by the nav concerned. It shames me to admit that I never noticed that one had been "mirrored" - have to be more carefull in future. But the pics are not fakes, I used the original slides, and anyway, getting the shadow(s) right is not easy and is generally a clue to the "fakedness" or otherwise of a pic.
The Cans are, however, two separate flights but on the same day.
Thanks for noticing Dipole. Me! Making a mistook over B(I)8s - such humiliation!
You are absolutely right! Not about the pics being fakes, but about the orientation of the Can heading at the tents - it was printed out reversed!
I scanned these, and others on my Coolscan thingy, from slides supplied by the nav concerned. It shames me to admit that I never noticed that one had been "mirrored" - have to be more carefull in future. But the pics are not fakes, I used the original slides, and anyway, getting the shadow(s) right is not easy and is generally a clue to the "fakedness" or otherwise of a pic.
The Cans are, however, two separate flights but on the same day.
Thanks for noticing Dipole. Me! Making a mistook over B(I)8s - such humiliation!
A4 piccie
Can't find it among my 'treasures' at the moment but the A4 piccie posted by Ex-DD is (I think) part of a short video of an A4 rather low over a group of walkers (spotters) - came up the valley and shaved the tops of the grass as he disappeared overhead. It looks lower when the hill / people are in the frame.
If I find the video I'll try to post
If I find the video I'll try to post
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Most SirPHL's photos are indeed on this thread, including the Range Tower incident, so I'm not going to repost them. I don't know about the Cranberry shots, but definitely no need to fake any of the SOAF ones!
Magnificent Vulcan Flypast
If only the reviewing officer could see behind him...
and just for interest when 44(R) Sqn disbanded, they flew around like this
and just for interest when 44(R) Sqn disbanded, they flew around like this
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Hi Dipole (again)
You also asked about a Buc flying between hangars. Could you be referring to an incident at RAF St Athan when a Phant was flown out between the hangars - on reheat!
I don't know where this pic came from but I believe there's a story to it involving a hi-ranker.
If this is not what you meant, well, maybe someone else knows the detail of the event and can post the story.
You also asked about a Buc flying between hangars. Could you be referring to an incident at RAF St Athan when a Phant was flown out between the hangars - on reheat!
I don't know where this pic came from but I believe there's a story to it involving a hi-ranker.
If this is not what you meant, well, maybe someone else knows the detail of the event and can post the story.
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That picture of the F4 and the expanation of same appears early in this thread, still a great shot though. 
I have a very nice picky of a F4 smoking very low up a river bed in what looks like Canadian scenery,and another of a F4 banking grass height over a corn field, I suspect the later might be a fake as the aircraft looks a bit pixalated, don't have a site I can host them on though.
I have a very nice picky of a F4 smoking very low up a river bed in what looks like Canadian scenery,and another of a F4 banking grass height over a corn field, I suspect the later might be a fake as the aircraft looks a bit pixalated, don't have a site I can host them on though.
