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Trumpet Trousers,
My point exactly Sir.
I too have heard about the 'jolly' to the States at the expence of RIAT 'good causes' It simply is not necessary, and unless RIAT (and others involved) get a grip of it, then the level of this 'wastage' will become common knowledge amongst the public, and they will simply start to boycott the show. Although, haven't they already started to do that??
Lets cut the wastage and the not-needed freebies, and give the money to those that matter. After all, thats what it's all for! not for the benefit of a few.
And as for all the comments about cadets and 'cheap labour' - so what??
Do they not get a free day out at the worlds biggest airshow?
Are they 'forced' to attend RIAT?
They DO NOT spend the whole day working.
BLW - if you feel so passionately about giving up your day job to help repay the debt blah....then you, more than anyone should understand the points I make about the unneccessary spending that goes on at RIAT. You must know how many cadets attend, and therefore you can give us all an estimation to the amount of freebies given away in the form of T-shirts, sweatshirts, stickers, badges, hats blah. My point is but a simple one.....
It all costs money (and quite a lot of money I would suggest) At a time of very serious financial worries and problems, I believe that the money would be far better spent giving it to the RAFBF and RAFA.
And let me close by reiterating once again that the ATC cadets do an outstanding job. I have nothing but respect for them, and in no way do I attach any blame to them for what happens at RIAT. But, we must get our priorities right. There is little or NO money available for RAFBF and RAFA, therefore lets stop wasting it please.
Kind regards
The Swinging Monkey
'Caruthers, please tell Grob Driver that I have no carnal knowledge of a camel, and do not wish for any - thank you'
My point exactly Sir.
I too have heard about the 'jolly' to the States at the expence of RIAT 'good causes' It simply is not necessary, and unless RIAT (and others involved) get a grip of it, then the level of this 'wastage' will become common knowledge amongst the public, and they will simply start to boycott the show. Although, haven't they already started to do that??
Lets cut the wastage and the not-needed freebies, and give the money to those that matter. After all, thats what it's all for! not for the benefit of a few.
And as for all the comments about cadets and 'cheap labour' - so what??
Do they not get a free day out at the worlds biggest airshow?
Are they 'forced' to attend RIAT?
They DO NOT spend the whole day working.
BLW - if you feel so passionately about giving up your day job to help repay the debt blah....then you, more than anyone should understand the points I make about the unneccessary spending that goes on at RIAT. You must know how many cadets attend, and therefore you can give us all an estimation to the amount of freebies given away in the form of T-shirts, sweatshirts, stickers, badges, hats blah. My point is but a simple one.....
It all costs money (and quite a lot of money I would suggest) At a time of very serious financial worries and problems, I believe that the money would be far better spent giving it to the RAFBF and RAFA.
And let me close by reiterating once again that the ATC cadets do an outstanding job. I have nothing but respect for them, and in no way do I attach any blame to them for what happens at RIAT. But, we must get our priorities right. There is little or NO money available for RAFBF and RAFA, therefore lets stop wasting it please.
Kind regards
The Swinging Monkey
'Caruthers, please tell Grob Driver that I have no carnal knowledge of a camel, and do not wish for any - thank you'
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Just for record, if any of you go to Riat this year.( if it happens ) and you see some people in nice new t shirts, with Riat transport dept on them, we paid for them ourselves.
And if you have any problems getting anywhere, just pop over to Riat transport and ask for snowman, and i will try my hardest to get you there.
10 volunter years at Riat and paying to much tax gives me the right to look at, and reply or post anything thing i like. Also we as volunters can claim mileage money for taveling to and from home, but some of us refuse to.
The reason we do it every year is because we have a bloody good time. We only see each other once a year ( in some cases thats enough ) we work hard and play hard. And are saturday night bbqs take some beating. All welcome. No, some of us have never been in the services, some of us could not get in for one reason or another. But we like to think we are doing are bit.
Yes i can see where we could save money, but who is going to take any notice of little old me. Stick it to the big boys, if you can get to them, lets face it if the aircrew say no, we wont have a show. You are the guys in the front line, im sure there must be someone out there that has contacts in the right place, make your feelings known to them.
I have made some very good freinds over the years, both aircrew and civvie, and would like to see it continue. And if the guy from 9sqn who i took to swindon hospital is out there, yes you, take care buddy, and thanks for what you did for that young lady, it really made her day.
And to all the drunken lot that i get back to there hotels, getting my ears bashed, cus i aint driving fast enough for you to get to the hotel bar, i will come and collect all those drinks you promised one day. That will wipe the smile of your face`s.
Well you no where to find me at Riat so if you get there please come over and say Hi. Perhaps we can have a few beers and put the world to right, lets face it, we could proberly do a better job than the lot thats doing it now.
Oh, and swinging monkey, you never asnwerd the question, are you any relation to Hangus the monkey?
Thats all folks. Regards Trout.
And if you have any problems getting anywhere, just pop over to Riat transport and ask for snowman, and i will try my hardest to get you there.
10 volunter years at Riat and paying to much tax gives me the right to look at, and reply or post anything thing i like. Also we as volunters can claim mileage money for taveling to and from home, but some of us refuse to.
The reason we do it every year is because we have a bloody good time. We only see each other once a year ( in some cases thats enough ) we work hard and play hard. And are saturday night bbqs take some beating. All welcome. No, some of us have never been in the services, some of us could not get in for one reason or another. But we like to think we are doing are bit.
Yes i can see where we could save money, but who is going to take any notice of little old me. Stick it to the big boys, if you can get to them, lets face it if the aircrew say no, we wont have a show. You are the guys in the front line, im sure there must be someone out there that has contacts in the right place, make your feelings known to them.
I have made some very good freinds over the years, both aircrew and civvie, and would like to see it continue. And if the guy from 9sqn who i took to swindon hospital is out there, yes you, take care buddy, and thanks for what you did for that young lady, it really made her day.
And to all the drunken lot that i get back to there hotels, getting my ears bashed, cus i aint driving fast enough for you to get to the hotel bar, i will come and collect all those drinks you promised one day. That will wipe the smile of your face`s.
Well you no where to find me at Riat so if you get there please come over and say Hi. Perhaps we can have a few beers and put the world to right, lets face it, we could proberly do a better job than the lot thats doing it now.
Oh, and swinging monkey, you never asnwerd the question, are you any relation to Hangus the monkey?
Thats all folks. Regards Trout.
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Trout,
'Me dear ol' trout!'
Thanks for the reply. Firstly, No I'm not related to Hangus the Monkey. Indeed, many say I'm not related to anyone, so, sorry, it's not me.
You make a very good point about saving money, and I for one, admire you purchasing your own T shirts. I'm not going to rant on (got to get airborne in about 20 mins) but just wanted to thank you on behalf of all the aircrew and groundcrew (drunk or otherwise) for the great job you and your mates do.
Many thank, and hope to see you at RIAT
Regards
The swinging Monkey
'Caruthers, get the Snowman a drink. Or is the trout? who knows?'
'Me dear ol' trout!'
Thanks for the reply. Firstly, No I'm not related to Hangus the Monkey. Indeed, many say I'm not related to anyone, so, sorry, it's not me.
You make a very good point about saving money, and I for one, admire you purchasing your own T shirts. I'm not going to rant on (got to get airborne in about 20 mins) but just wanted to thank you on behalf of all the aircrew and groundcrew (drunk or otherwise) for the great job you and your mates do.
Many thank, and hope to see you at RIAT
Regards
The swinging Monkey
'Caruthers, get the Snowman a drink. Or is the trout? who knows?'
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Does anyone remember the farce of the security checks at the hangar bash lst year? Made our crew laugh somewhat...
Queue to get in Three miles long, bruiser type in his black 'Genuine US ARMY Flying jacket' marching up and down the lines, ordering everyone to empty pockets into Polly bags... only to walk straight round the metal detector, (maybe it was too technical for them to opperate) ignoring the contents of the bags completely and how many A/C survival knives on the suits got through??
When past the Security Checks asked one of the Bruisers what was that all about and got the reply.. ''Its a security Fing Guv, Gotta be carefull these days''
Still it gave us something to chortle over whilst waiting for the first Carling!
Queue to get in Three miles long, bruiser type in his black 'Genuine US ARMY Flying jacket' marching up and down the lines, ordering everyone to empty pockets into Polly bags... only to walk straight round the metal detector, (maybe it was too technical for them to opperate) ignoring the contents of the bags completely and how many A/C survival knives on the suits got through??
When past the Security Checks asked one of the Bruisers what was that all about and got the reply.. ''Its a security Fing Guv, Gotta be carefull these days''
Still it gave us something to chortle over whilst waiting for the first Carling!
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DP,
I remember it only too well...!!!
I'm sure any other volunteers reading this will recall with equal fondness the checks required whenever you wanted to go from your place of work to your accommodation in the staff campsite or even from your accommodation to the mess.
I know on several occasions guys on our team decided it really wasnt worth the hassle and either went without food or bought it on site on the public days!
Still, I suppose it is in everybodys interest at the end of the day.
I'm still looking forward to July though - heres hoping the unpleasantness is settled by then.
'BLW'
I remember it only too well...!!!
I'm sure any other volunteers reading this will recall with equal fondness the checks required whenever you wanted to go from your place of work to your accommodation in the staff campsite or even from your accommodation to the mess.
I know on several occasions guys on our team decided it really wasnt worth the hassle and either went without food or bought it on site on the public days!
Still, I suppose it is in everybodys interest at the end of the day.
I'm still looking forward to July though - heres hoping the unpleasantness is settled by then.
'BLW'
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It has been announced today that Cosford has cancelled this year.
The show is funded by a charity organisation and to prevent major losses due to advanced fees being required, they have pulled the plug early. They also believe that the military aircraft participation will be severely limited.
They are now focusing on next years event.
The show is funded by a charity organisation and to prevent major losses due to advanced fees being required, they have pulled the plug early. They also believe that the military aircraft participation will be severely limited.
They are now focusing on next years event.
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Well its all kicked of big style over in arab land. Just to say a big respect to all you guys and girls, and please come back. There will be a few extra crates of beer at transport towers this year, come over and share them with me.
Take care. Trout.
Take care. Trout.
