Blues At Brize
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Blues At Brize
I was following, with interest, the topic dealing with the wearing of blues at brize. The topic has now disappeared from these hallowed pages! I am informed that the original poster would have been the only one to delete the topic.
Would the author care to give us a reason for the deletion?
Would the author care to give us a reason for the deletion?
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Being observant never was one of my traits, but B@@@@r me your right! Where is the thread on Brize. It had loads of visits and lots of replies. Can anyone shed any light on the skulduggery involved in it being deleted?
KennyR, hopefully you are not at Brize. At least then you can't be ordered to delete this one. Well done for sticking it back on.
Being observant never was one of my traits, but B@@@@r me your right! Where is the thread on Brize. It had loads of visits and lots of replies. Can anyone shed any light on the skulduggery involved in it being deleted?
KennyR, hopefully you are not at Brize. At least then you can't be ordered to delete this one. Well done for sticking it back on.
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All joking aside - I understand why some threads on sensitive topics might be removed - but the afore mentioned thread was no more than aircrew venting their spleen and blunties enjoying rubbing salt in the wounds. Despite some individuals getting quite wound up over the issue, the thread was no more than the banter that most of us enjoy. Surely the Stn Cdr at Brize didn't go to the trouble of finding out who started the thread and ordering him to delete it... if he did that has serious implications for the more controversial threads posted on this forum.
Somebody explain what is going on please...
Somebody explain what is going on please...
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Tigs, I'm ex Army Air Corps, living in Canada. Thats why I could call the Station Commander "a horses ass". I thought that this topic was very important, as it shows all ranks at Brize what the new Staish is capable of. I sincerely hope that the original poster has not been censured in any way by the Staish as a result of his free speech. There are serious ramifications if he has!
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I would be most disturbed if an individual had pressure placed on him to delete a thread because it made a staish uncomfortable. Censorship has a habit of backfiring.
Whilst I think all would agree opsec is essential, in this case the right to disagree and debate the issue is a fundamental tenet of a democratic society.
So I would encourage all those who contributed to the original thread to post again here. I think this thread is much less likely to be deleted.
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Whilst I think all would agree opsec is essential, in this case the right to disagree and debate the issue is a fundamental tenet of a democratic society.
So I would encourage all those who contributed to the original thread to post again here. I think this thread is much less likely to be deleted.
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Since Pprune became a forum where serving individuals made comment about current Service issues, you can bet your life that the plods and over-sensitive execs search for clues as to the identity of individuals making the criticisms. Was there not a case where a guy at Kinloss gave away too many clues, was identified and hammered? (Maybe someone can tell us the full story on that one).
The Staish at Brize only has to tell his execs that he is on a witch-hunt to find the originator for it to sweep thru the base - more especially if he intimates that he is close to finding the name. That would guarantee that the individual deletes the original post pronto. In the early days of my time contributing to this forum, a comment was made by an individual who gave away so much in his comment that I worked out his name within hours. When I told him, he deleted his post immediately, changed his nom-de-plume and was very much more careful in the future.
The Pprune Moderators are a sensible bunch - it takes a lot for them to pull a topic. So far I have only seen them do it twice - once on security grounds and once when an individual became grossly offensive. The BZN uniform topic was never offensive or controversial. I hope we can get an answer, even if it is thru a third party.
[Now all it needs is for ADUX to post for the complete set - private joke!]
The Staish at Brize only has to tell his execs that he is on a witch-hunt to find the originator for it to sweep thru the base - more especially if he intimates that he is close to finding the name. That would guarantee that the individual deletes the original post pronto. In the early days of my time contributing to this forum, a comment was made by an individual who gave away so much in his comment that I worked out his name within hours. When I told him, he deleted his post immediately, changed his nom-de-plume and was very much more careful in the future.
The Pprune Moderators are a sensible bunch - it takes a lot for them to pull a topic. So far I have only seen them do it twice - once on security grounds and once when an individual became grossly offensive. The BZN uniform topic was never offensive or controversial. I hope we can get an answer, even if it is thru a third party.
[Now all it needs is for ADUX to post for the complete set - private joke!]
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Here is a conspiracy theory for you, PERHAPS THE STN CDR AT BRIZE GOT SOMEBODY TO START THE THREAD IN THE FIRST PLACE!
Hear me out. Stn Cdr's are political animals, with 2 eyes on getting themselves promoted. To do this they have to get themselves noticed, to stand out from the crowd. There is no such thing as bad publicity etc. So perhaps the Stn Cdr got a pal to start the thread, knowing it would come to the attention of the senior neddies and highlight his strong willed approach, even in the face of some opposition, etc, etc. However, things started to get out of hand, the Stn Cdr changed his mind and got his mate to pull the plug.
Plausible?
Alternatively the Stn Cdr has just upset all his aircrew, they complained in one of the few ways they could, the originators name got out and he got a huge bollocking and was told to withdraw it!
Take your pick.
The truth is out there.....
Hear me out. Stn Cdr's are political animals, with 2 eyes on getting themselves promoted. To do this they have to get themselves noticed, to stand out from the crowd. There is no such thing as bad publicity etc. So perhaps the Stn Cdr got a pal to start the thread, knowing it would come to the attention of the senior neddies and highlight his strong willed approach, even in the face of some opposition, etc, etc. However, things started to get out of hand, the Stn Cdr changed his mind and got his mate to pull the plug.
Plausible?
Alternatively the Stn Cdr has just upset all his aircrew, they complained in one of the few ways they could, the originators name got out and he got a huge bollocking and was told to withdraw it!
Take your pick.
The truth is out there.....
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Plausible? Yes....Likely?...No. The only way we will find out is if the original poster will come forward and tell us why he/she pulled this very interesting topic. Maybe the Staish could come on and let us know the reasons behind his stupidity!
Well, Mr Station Commander........do you have any gonads??
Well, Mr Station Commander........do you have any gonads??
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Fine about deleting a topic...but why delete all the replies?
Or was it all a bit too close to home? MAybe we'll never no, on the other hand,.. who say's navigator's have got gonads?......
Only kidding, some of my best drinking mates were navs, sad loss to the truckie fleet, less people to buy the beers!!
Or was it all a bit too close to home? MAybe we'll never no, on the other hand,.. who say's navigator's have got gonads?......
Only kidding, some of my best drinking mates were navs, sad loss to the truckie fleet, less people to buy the beers!!
Picture the scene at a secret airbase in deepest Wiltshire in the 1990s. Harry Staish calls in his PA....
"Ha, Sgt X, I'm looking for an initiative that will get my name known. Any suggestions?"
"How about making everybody come to work in blues?"
"Brilliant idea!"
Fast forward to 2002. Harry Staish at BZN talking to his 2nd wife...
"I'm looking for an initiative that will get my name known. Any suggestions?"
"How about making everybody come to work in blues? It worked for my Boss at Lyneham"
"Brilliant idea!"
"Ha, Sgt X, I'm looking for an initiative that will get my name known. Any suggestions?"
"How about making everybody come to work in blues?"
"Brilliant idea!"
Fast forward to 2002. Harry Staish at BZN talking to his 2nd wife...
"I'm looking for an initiative that will get my name known. Any suggestions?"
"How about making everybody come to work in blues? It worked for my Boss at Lyneham"
"Brilliant idea!"
I just had a peek in the belching humming Containment Chamber we keep in the bowels of PPRuNe HQ for dangerous threads.
The thread in question is not there.
Which tells me that it was not moved by anyone at PPRuNe HQ - we don't delete. So it looks like the original poster deleted his post which also kills the thread.
WWW
The thread in question is not there.
Which tells me that it was not moved by anyone at PPRuNe HQ - we don't delete. So it looks like the original poster deleted his post which also kills the thread.
WWW
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Could the thread have been killed by the originator because it became PERSONAL?? As indeed this one is becoming!!
It's fine to berate him for his policies, but not for his personal life.
Chill out people..:o
It's fine to berate him for his policies, but not for his personal life.
Chill out people..:o
Gorilla
If your comment was partially directed at me I did not "berate his personel life". I merely commented that I believed he was no longer married, when Rubic Cube referred to a fictional conversation between him and his wife. I could be wrong in my belief, I am sure his martital status is common knowledge at Brize.
If a chap is divorced it does not make him any more or less of a man in my eyes. Indeed, given the stress I anticipate being placed on my marriage in the next 6 months I could end up joining the ranks of the divorced!!!!!
The aim of my comment was to inform, NOT JUDGE. It was for that very reason that I DID NOT DISCUSS ANY DETAILS OF HIS PERSONAL LIFE BEYOND A SIMPLE STATEMENT OF WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE A WELL KNOWN FACT!!
If your comment was partially directed at me I did not "berate his personel life". I merely commented that I believed he was no longer married, when Rubic Cube referred to a fictional conversation between him and his wife. I could be wrong in my belief, I am sure his martital status is common knowledge at Brize.
If a chap is divorced it does not make him any more or less of a man in my eyes. Indeed, given the stress I anticipate being placed on my marriage in the next 6 months I could end up joining the ranks of the divorced!!!!!
The aim of my comment was to inform, NOT JUDGE. It was for that very reason that I DID NOT DISCUSS ANY DETAILS OF HIS PERSONAL LIFE BEYOND A SIMPLE STATEMENT OF WHAT I BELIEVE TO BE A WELL KNOWN FACT!!
Sorry, I was only putting two and two together from the previous thread and making six! No slur intended on his personal life, more a failed attempt to be funny about who wears the trousers.