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Spot,
Thanks, I'd already had a go at that earlier but it didn't seem to like it...cheers for posting it on my behalf.
Rob,
I'm not sure if you're just trying to get a bite from me, but for what it's worth....here goes :
1. The photo was scanned from an original photo that my father has owned since his membership of the team in the early 1970s, well before scanners or even household PCs existed.
2. I'd be suprised if this photo's already appeared on the site, are you sure it wasn't something similar ?
3. In my opinion the blue haze around the smoke was caused by light diffraction from the fuel vapour which is sprayed into the hot jet exhaust and produces the white smoke. The same principle explains why the sky is blue, due to sunlight being diffracted by the atmosphere.
4. That's not shadow you're seeing by the left-hand intake - it's a reflection on the highly polished (as you'd expect) fuselage.
I hope you're just pulling my leg Rob, I'd hate to think you were one of those geeky conspiracy theorists.
Thanks, I'd already had a go at that earlier but it didn't seem to like it...cheers for posting it on my behalf.
Rob,
I'm not sure if you're just trying to get a bite from me, but for what it's worth....here goes :
1. The photo was scanned from an original photo that my father has owned since his membership of the team in the early 1970s, well before scanners or even household PCs existed.
2. I'd be suprised if this photo's already appeared on the site, are you sure it wasn't something similar ?
3. In my opinion the blue haze around the smoke was caused by light diffraction from the fuel vapour which is sprayed into the hot jet exhaust and produces the white smoke. The same principle explains why the sky is blue, due to sunlight being diffracted by the atmosphere.
4. That's not shadow you're seeing by the left-hand intake - it's a reflection on the highly polished (as you'd expect) fuselage.
I hope you're just pulling my leg Rob, I'd hate to think you were one of those geeky conspiracy theorists.
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The error that you made was in giving a link to the page that the image is on rather than the image itself. To see what I mean, right click on the image above. highlight properties, and note the image address compared to the one that you provided by way of a link. You were almost there.
FWIW I remember seeing this image used in official RA publicity pamphlets in the early seventies? ... and no self respecting team would use bu11**** photos , therefore I believe the pic to be genuine.
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The error that you made was in giving a link to the page that the image is on rather than the image itself. To see what I mean, right click on the image above. highlight properties, and note the image address compared to the one that you provided by way of a link. You were almost there.
FWIW I remember seeing this image used in official RA publicity pamphlets in the early seventies? ... and no self respecting team would use bu11**** photos , therefore I believe the pic to be genuine.
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Red Arrows Gnat pic
My all-time favourite shot - it was used in the tenth anniversary magazine which I still treasure somewhere in the study. I'll see if I can track it down.
Funnily enough it was the discussion at Leuchars just after the F3's final pass over our press party - thanks Simon for the new parting in the hair! I'm still shaking...
Funnily enough it was the discussion at Leuchars just after the F3's final pass over our press party - thanks Simon for the new parting in the hair! I'm still shaking...
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Knee-high to a Gnat's...
Ah - found it. A Flight special on the Reds first ten years.
Also found this shot in it:
Pics were by the staff photographer, Tom Hamill. I can only think he's a) very short or b) entirely mad!
Also found this shot in it:
Pics were by the staff photographer, Tom Hamill. I can only think he's a) very short or b) entirely mad!
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Definitely not faked, they REALLY were that low in Gnat/pre-PC/pre-H&S days. Mate of mine who flew with the Reds in Gnat days reckons they pulled up to clear runway lights! His tongue was only slightly in his cheek .......
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Guess they probably are real. It was the blue edges to the smoke that I was suspicious about, but your explanation explains them.
I've defintely seem that or something very similair.
I've defintely seem that or something very similair.
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Rob,
Come to think of it, I believe they sprayed diesel into the exhaust to produce the white smoke. Diesel exhaust is white with a subtle blue tinge....this is more likely the reason for the blue edge on the pic.
Cheers for accepting it wasn't faked !
Come to think of it, I believe they sprayed diesel into the exhaust to produce the white smoke. Diesel exhaust is white with a subtle blue tinge....this is more likely the reason for the blue edge on the pic.
Cheers for accepting it wasn't faked !
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More Pics please
Hi all,
Being only a mere PPL (H) (A) I am in ore and beholden to you chaps, and can only dream about having your job! Putting fires out really isn't the same as flying by the seat of your pants 250' over the grd at 400mph!being very sad I thought the pics at the top of this page are fantastic especially the GR 3. As disccussed above is there I site I can view more of these planes on, perhaps to download as Wall paper etc, I like the sound of the Low Gnat at Kemble. Please excuse my servere saddness, and I do promise to get out more. Also is there a school I could go to that offer flights in these types of jets?, it's not the same at the front of my Bell 47, or PA 28!
Great page people
Darren
Being only a mere PPL (H) (A) I am in ore and beholden to you chaps, and can only dream about having your job! Putting fires out really isn't the same as flying by the seat of your pants 250' over the grd at 400mph!being very sad I thought the pics at the top of this page are fantastic especially the GR 3. As disccussed above is there I site I can view more of these planes on, perhaps to download as Wall paper etc, I like the sound of the Low Gnat at Kemble. Please excuse my servere saddness, and I do promise to get out more. Also is there a school I could go to that offer flights in these types of jets?, it's not the same at the front of my Bell 47, or PA 28!
Great page people
Darren
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Confirm pic was by me old mate Tom (c. 5ft 8in), there is another pic around by someone not so bold/barking of Tom taking it; he was actually kneeling and the Gnat was at about 8ft. Can't remember who was flying it and I think perhaps it was taken at Little Rissington, not Kemble.Manual camera--pro photog--great bloke.
Hi MightyGem,
Just tried to view your photo without success - perhaps the problem is my end - but I get 'Forbidden'...... you do not have permission to access 'mightygem blah blah'. Any suggestions please?
P.S. Enjoying the new Eurocopter?
Just tried to view your photo without success - perhaps the problem is my end - but I get 'Forbidden'...... you do not have permission to access 'mightygem blah blah'. Any suggestions please?
P.S. Enjoying the new Eurocopter?
Hmm... It appears I have to pay if I want a direct link to the picture. Try this: http://www.pbase.com/image/4973936
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