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Old 11th Dec 2023, 15:20
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That's what I thought but seeing what's going on in the Ukraine, perhaps it is an accurate representation.
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Old 11th Dec 2023, 15:21
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I wonder if it's because the RAF didn't want to be associated with it? Wild guess.

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Old 11th Dec 2023, 15:43
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Can I have one of those Orrificer cap badges please!
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I'm afraid I have more bad news - Wudyan isn't a real country, either.
Wudya know it . Booked my next holiday there

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I gave up Latin at school over 45 years ago so I’m a little rusty… google translate struggled with this too but came up with ‘through difficulties to August’… I assume they went with a motto that looked about right rather than one that made any sense?

Latin augustus "venerable, majestic, magnificent, noble”. Still doesn’t make a lot of sense. My BFT course adopted the motto “ Semper in excretam pedes ponamus” Not sure if the endings were correct but then I did give up Latin for woodwork - and never regretted it!

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Old 11th Dec 2023, 16:28
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I think that in general anyone who watches mainstream TV series that covers their industry finds a fair number of faults which means of course that pretty much everything is full of erors its just that theyare not noticed by the majority of watchers who are not, pilots, police officers, lawyers etc etc etc.

Having done the police vs RAF/RN they might be tempted to do an army one but if the words Deepcut mean anything to you then again they might not. I tend to watch more non UK TV these days, Chan 4 World Drama and the like.which i enjoy and find less politically 'aware' but I do often wonder if French cops watching Spiral say scoffed at various scenes or Malmos CID thought Saga Norens uniform colleagues wrongly attired.

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Old 11th Dec 2023, 16:53
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I too was involved in "Squadron". My bit part revolved around some banana republic uprising leading to the evacuation of the embassy staff. The banana republic was Akrotiri where the filming took place on a redundant V force dispersal pan. The after shoot beer call was a hoot where it was revealed the production crew had previously worked on the kids programme Rainbow. I think as far as RAF operational advice was concerned the production crew for "Squadron" had relied on input from their previous team of advisors: Zippy, Bungle and Geoffrey.
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Old 11th Dec 2023, 16:56
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Members of Joe Public may be completely oblivious to some of the inaccuracies, but for anyone even remotely associated with the military, it is pure cringe. Sometimes shows are so bad, they are good. This is so bad; it's just...bad.
yup - its FICTION -

Yes its good when they get the little details right but it doesn't make any difference to the story for 99% of the viewers
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Old 11th Dec 2023, 17:00
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Originally Posted by charliegolf
I wonder if it's because the RAF didn't want to be associated with it? Wild guess.
None of the services actively co-operated with either series, nor did the producers expect them to.

The use of "British Air Force" rather than RAF was intentional.
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Old 11th Dec 2023, 17:07
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
None of the services actively co-operated with either series, nor did the producers expect them to.

The use of "British Air Force" rather than RAF was intentional.
But the vast majority of the audience won’t know that.
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Old 11th Dec 2023, 17:32
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But the vast majority of the audience won’t know that.
The vast majority of the audience probably couldn't care less.
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Old 11th Dec 2023, 23:19
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This is a jet blast subject and sod all to do with current military aviation.
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Old 11th Dec 2023, 23:33
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Little titbit.

When they filmed the Dambusters the cast wore brown shoes so the permanent staff could recognise the actors and not salute them etc, being brown on the black and white film they appeared as black.

The cap badge almost appeared to have the brass disc that went on the inside of the Beret on the outside polished up.
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Old 11th Dec 2023, 23:54
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A subject that is actually fooking something to do with current military aviation.. Just. 6 Typhoon Sqn RAF have been given the Spotty Jaguar.
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Old 12th Dec 2023, 00:00
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That’s old News..
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Old 12th Dec 2023, 00:03
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That’s old News..
They ain't said it yet. Cosford and Lossie have mind.
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Old 12th Dec 2023, 00:08
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Originally Posted by OJ 72
I’m surprised there’s been nothing about this…so far! And, for our non-BBC-watching denizens it does have ‘some’ aviation content, as, according to the Radio Times it is set within the ‘British Air Force’ (sic)…whatever that is!!!

But, to be honest, I’m not really able to comment as I only lasted 10 minutes…and that was nine minutes too long!!! I thought it was execrable; from the ‘acting’, to the stilted dialogue, to the scenario, and, even the uniforms - just what was the ‘cap badge’ worn by the Wg Cdr in the opening scenes?!?

‘Not for you, James’, I thought as I turned over to BBC4 to watch a fascinating 1985 ‘Omnibus’ documentary about the recording of ‘West Side Story’ with Bernstein conducting…and thus was my equilibrium rebalanced!!!
I bet you sat through Top Gun boring anyone who'd listen with "well THAT isn't right...."
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Old 12th Dec 2023, 00:09
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Back on topic, wife watched it last night and enjoyed it. She will watch it again. The British Air Ferries stuff will grate me. But I worked with so many ex BAF guys at ATC Lasham SEN, I will not take offence. As the old boys of the USN weapons school said of Top Gun Maverick. "It is not a documentary "
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Old 12th Dec 2023, 08:09
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Originally Posted by Diff Tail Shim
This is a jet blast subject and sod all to do with current military aviation.
What, as opposed to one on the Battle of Britain, one on OCU number plates, caption competition, YET ANOTHER one on Vulcans, to name a few ‘current military aviation’ topics on the front page of this forum?
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Old 12th Dec 2023, 08:12
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Diff Tail Shim stated…'This is a jet blast subject and sod all to do with current military aviation.' Well, it’s probably got as much to do with current military aviation as the excellent, resurrected thread on Frederic Forsythe’s 'The Shepherd' which doesn’t seemed to have attracted his opprobrium. Indeed, one might argue, that given 'Vigil’s' somewhat, shall we say, idiosyncratic portrayal of the use of RPAS on the modern battlefield, then it does have a certain degree of relevance! However, Mods, to assuage Diff Tail Shim's conniptions if you think that this is best situated in 'Jet Blast' then please move it accordingly!

As far as Wizofoz’s 'kind' () remark…' I bet you sat through Top Gun boring anyone who'd listen with "well THAT isn't right...."' is concerned, we’ll, not exactly! With a (sadly vanishingly) residual knowledge of FJ TTPs I did point out a few basic errors in 'Top Gun: Maverick' to Mrs OJ 72 whilst we were watching it in a Manchester cinema ahead of my somewhat 'inglorious' appearance on 'Brain of Britain' in 2022! However, as my right ankle was becoming increasingly bruised and swollen following the Memsahib’s 'encouragement' to ‘STFU’ () I rapidly desisted from my critique!

But as far as the original 'Top Gun' is concerned, well that was required viewing for aspiring FJ aircrew in the late 80s…👏😁😎 Apart from the fact that it ruined (and embarrassed) a generation of said FJ aircrew, who, after a dry sherry (or two) insisted in trying to recreate the 'Lovin' Feeling' scene!!! 😱 🤣 Recreated, I may say, with various degrees of success on a scale of '0' to '1'!!!😬 And also trying to fit: 'I feel the need...'; 'take me to bed or lose me forever'; and, 'target rich environmen'' into every other bloody sentence seemed clever...at the time!!!

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