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Old 15th Jul 2023, 18:00
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90 miles in a straight line!!! You'd have to make sure you were pointing in exactly the right direction before you started
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Old 15th Jul 2023, 18:13
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Certainly some FOD along the sides of some motorways, but I have to say I cannot recall ever seeing a pothole in a motorway. It always amazes me how good the road surface is on motorways, and particularly the drainage - you very rarely find any patches of standing water, even in the heaviest rain conditions.
Amazed this hasn't generated any comments. Maybe I'm just unlucky....
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Amazed this hasn't generated any comments. Maybe I'm just unlucky....
I though it was being ironical!
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Disused

As alluded to above surely the amount of disused or not used ex airfields are more appropriate?

Linton, Dishforth, Topcliffe, Elvington, Stretton, Cottesmore, Wittering etc are all there or thereabouts for a quick set up relatively speaking.

The US have begun reconstructing old based on Pacific Islands recently like Tinian and Midway with the Marine F35s.

Roads don't make sense in the UK unless we're really desperate.
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Old 16th Jul 2023, 10:30
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Originally Posted by Shaft109
As alluded to above surely the amount of disused or not used ex airfields are more appropriate?

Linton, Dishforth, Topcliffe, Elvington, Stretton, Cottesmore, Wittering etc are all there or thereabouts for a quick set up relatively speaking.

The US have begun reconstructing old based on Pacific Islands recently like Tinian and Midway with the Marine F35s.

Roads don't make sense in the UK unless we're really desperate.
Stretton is privately owned but it looks like there is still some runway but military owned airfields include Brawdy, Chivenor, Woodvale, Leuchars, Kinloss, Abingdon, Wyton; you could even squeeze an F35 into Catterick.

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Old 16th Jul 2023, 11:07
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Stretton is privately owned but it looks like there is still some runway but military owned airfields include Brawdy, Chivenor, Woodvale, Leuchars, Kinloss, Abingdon, Wyton; you could even squeeze an F35 into Catterick.
I would be wary about using Catterick...I know of a certain Chipmunk that was taxied in the rugby posts... with unerring accuracy

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Originally Posted by Ninthace
I though it was being ironical!
No irony whatsoever. I have barely ever seen a pothole in a motorway surface, i.e. a defect that I would have to swerve to avoid should I see it by day, or that would cause me to think “w.t.f. did I just hit, and is the vehicle damaged” if I ran over it by night. Non-motorways are a different matter, a lot of very poor surfaces, but as I commented above, I am always impressed by how good motorway surfaces are, and particularly the engineering that prevents standing water and flows of water across the carriageways.
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Old 16th Jul 2023, 16:15
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No irony whatsoever. I have barely ever seen a pothole in a motorway surface, i.e. a defect that I would have to swerve to avoid should I see it by day, or that would cause me to think “w.t.f. did I just hit, and is the vehicle damaged” if I ran over it by night.
I guess you didn't drive on the M11 between the M25 and Stansted just a few years ago, which got into an appalling condition, particularly breaking up along the asphalt layer seams which somewhat, but not always, coincided with the lane lines. It got so bad that roadside signs were placed warning about it. Eventually it was resurfaced recently.
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It must be because no one lives that far North. The M4, M40, M25 and M1 are all littered with dodgy patches. I think it was the M4 which had some lovely ruts on the inside lane caused by all the HGV traffic.
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Originally Posted by Ohrly
It must be because no one lives that far North. The M4, M40, M25 and M1 are all littered with dodgy patches. I think it was the M4 which had some lovely ruts on the inside lane caused by all the HGV traffic.
Maybe that is the reason for our different experiences - I have rarely driven on any of those in recent years. My frequent use motorways are M90, M9, M80, M8, M73, M74, A74(M), M6 and M5, and they all seem pretty good…
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Since Changi was built, the highlighted portion of the highway (East Coast Parkway) leading to the airport was always available as a back up runway and/or crash strip.

The stretch is about a 1800m long and about 30m wide. The plants/vegetation you see in the middle are in large, easily removable pots with a wooden edging. The highway is lined with palms and lightposts but in a crisis it will be a small problem to clear these. What is important is that there seem to be no concrete structures next to this portion of the highway, being bordered on both sides by golf courses for the most part.



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Old 17th Jul 2023, 08:33
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Originally Posted by treadigraph
The main runway at Burtonwood is now part of the M62 I believe...
Similarly, the M8 west of Glasgow follows the alignment of the old Renfrew Airport runway. Although the tower block at the western end may make it less usefull.

There are a few strangely straight sections on the UK motorways - the aforementioned M74 north of Lockerbie, a couple on the M6 (Although at least one of those has 7 or 8 bridges over it)
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How many miles of perfectly straight motorway does the UK actually possess? Was this planned for in the construction of our motorways?
Few people credit the Romans for being such forward thinkers.
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Old 17th Jul 2023, 15:46
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Also the M5, which runs along the main runway of RAF Moreton Valence
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Since Changi was built, the highlighted portion of the highway (East Coast Parkway) leading to the airport was always available as a back up runway and/or crash strip.
One minute you are driving towards Changi on the nicely shaded ECP:



and the next minute, you come round the corner and are driving on an emergency runway:


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Old 18th Jul 2023, 07:12
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The Govt of Singapore is pretty good at thinking things through............................
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Old 18th Jul 2023, 17:56
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Singapore also has long stretches of straight road parallel to the runways at Tengah and Paya Lebar. However, the buy of F35B may well reflect the vulnerability of runways and road strips.
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Singapore also has long stretches of straight road parallel to the runways at Tengah and Paya Lebar. However, the buy of F35B may well reflect the vulnerability of runways and road strips.
I suspect its more that they want o be the best equipped in the region - a bit like the Israelis

Tho things seem pretty quiet these days between Malaysia, Singapore & Indonesia - seem to rub along reasonably well - remarkable what having a large noisy neighbour to the North achieves
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Old 19th Jul 2023, 18:16
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Fully agree that Singapore wants to stay ahead of it’s neighbours but it’s the choice of the F35B rather than the CTOL F35A that is significant.
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Old 19th Jul 2023, 19:32
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Originally Posted by Audax
Singapore also has long stretches of straight road parallel to the runways at Tengah and Paya Lebar. However, the buy of F35B may well reflect the vulnerability of runways and road strips.
Those roads are tarmac; an F35b will rip the surface to pieces if it doesn't melt it first; I saw what happened with the Yak 141 at Farnborough in '92; I was there.
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