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Old 28th Jun 2023, 02:40
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France tests hypersonic glide vehicle

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https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/...28-p5djzv.html
https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...er-2023-06-27/
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Interesting, I wonder what the contrails were from.
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Tip vorticies!!!!!!
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Looks a wee bit out of control?, no?



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Originally Posted by megan
Tip vorticies!!!!!!
You may very well be right. Although the vortex condensation usually needs quite a bit of span wise flow, which may not happen in hypersonic flow and usually dissipate quite quickly, these look persistent.
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Originally Posted by beardy
You may very well be right. Although the vortex condensation usually needs quite a bit of span wise flow, which may not happen in hypersonic flow and usually dissipate quite quickly, these look persistent.
Depends how fast they were written Not a lot of dissipation evident

No mention of a sonic boom that I have heard.
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Looks like a signature... Radar O'Reiily's ? Actually the bottom right squiggles look like they form a ram... (Jet?)

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Rods from God with the Red Bull treatment.
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Can anything turn so tightly at hypersonic speeds, even allowing for it being a great distance away?
Also, how does it retain enough energy for so very many extreme manoeuvres? You'd burn potential energy at a massive rate in descent to keep turning like that, and there's no sign of it descending.
Additionally tip vortices in the stratosphere (which is very dry) are surely unlikely to be so dense? I'd have thought you'd need to be burning a great deal of fuel to make vapour trails like that.
I'm a bit sceptical that what we're beng shown is what's being described.
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Could be fitted with airshow smoke...
And the trajectory may be purposely erratic, to defeat air defence
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Or perhaps a telemetry chase aircraft?
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Originally Posted by beardy
Or perhaps a telemetry chase aircraft?
Would that be a hypersonic chase aircraft?
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It looks like the trail of a Chinese spy balloon. After it was shot at and punctured.
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
Would that be a hypersonic chase aircraft?
Why should it be? NASA used the WB-57 to film and monitor the Space Shuttle even when it was hypersonic.
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Originally Posted by beardy
Why should it be? NASA used the WB-57 to film and monitor the Space Shuttle even when it was hypersonic.
Not with a track like that, I suggest.
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
Not with a track like that, I suggest.
They orbited at high altitude close to the projected flight path and filmed the shuttle to monitor for broken tiles. I suppose it's possible that something similar was going on from Cazaux, although not necessarily filming nor for tile monitoring.
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