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USN F-5N Accident - 31 May 23

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Old 6th Jun 2023, 18:23
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The F-5G/F-20 was the child of late 70s FMS/Export of Sensitive Technology politics and then came Reagan and a less restrictive viewpoint.
That's the way I remember it - the F-5G re-engine was intended for countries that wanted F-16s, but couldn't meet the export requirements. Then Reagan softened the export rules and nobody wanted the F-5G/F-20 when they could buy F-16s, which effecively killed the program.
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That's the way I remember it - the F-5G re-engine was intended for countries that wanted F-16s, but couldn't meet the export requirements. Then Reagan softened the export rules and nobody wanted the F-5G/F-20 when they could buy F-16s, which effecively killed the program.
I recall that similarly.
Add in a crash or two during development at particularly bad times (wasn't one at an airshow?) and the buyers looked elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
I recall that similarly.
Add in a crash or two during development at particularly bad times (wasn't one at an airshow?) and the buyers looked elsewhere.
The first was in 1985 during a demonstration in South Korea, the second less than a year later during a Goose Bay layover doing practice for the upcoming Paris Airshow. Both attributed to G-LOC. The timing surely did not help, The US had finally given the program some lukewarm support for export.

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The first was in 1985 during a demonstration in South Korea, the second less than a year later during a Goose Bay layover doing practice for the upcoming Paris Airshow. Both attributed to G-LOC. The timing surely did not help, The US had finally given the program some lukewarm support for export.
Rathet macabre, the Goose bay museum had the F-20 pilots helmet on display..
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I remember discussions / articles in Aviation Week back in the mid 80's about how the F-5G / F-20 moving forward helped SecDef Weinberger browbeat General Dynamics into lowering the price of an F-16 by about 4 million a copy. (Details hazy, it's been a long time).
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L_50 Probably either the Navy DACT buy or the ANG 'Defense of CONUS' buy, the National Guard Association lobbied congress to buy F-20 in 1985 connected to early ANG adoption of radar guided AAMs - another proposal was an F-4 upgrade while waiting on F-16 + AMRAAM.
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Originally Posted by sandiego89
The first was in 1985 during a demonstration in South Korea, the second less than a year later during a Goose Bay layover doing practice for the upcoming Paris Airshow. Both attributed to G-LOC. The timing surely did not help, The US had finally given the program some lukewarm support for export.
October 1984 in Korea and May '85 at Goose. Darrell Cornell provided a scintillating display at Farnborough in September '84 as I recall it (possibly outshone by Bill Loverseed's inadvertent demonstration of the DHC-5's ruggedness) and he was gone a month later.
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