Next US Chairman of JCS
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Next US Chairman of JCS
As expected, Gen "CQ" Brown Jr - currently CSAF - age 61 - tipped to be Biden's nomination as the next Chairman JCS replacing Gen Mark Milley.
Prior to becoming CSAF in 2020 he was Commander PACAF and his operational flying was on the F-16A/B/D/D
https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biograph...es-q-brown-jr/
Here he is in a recruiting ad
Prior to becoming CSAF in 2020 he was Commander PACAF and his operational flying was on the F-16A/B/D/D
https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biograph...es-q-brown-jr/
Here he is in a recruiting ad
He has some very small shoes to fill.
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Good tag, albeit his initials. CQ is Radio Ham speak to say that you'll talk to anyone. Not a bad start...
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I understand that, my question remains, I cannot think of a single reason to criticize Chairman Milley’s tenure
In particular standing up to a tyrannical and disgraced, twice impeached former president currently under criminal indictment who attempted to overthrow American democracy
That took great courage
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I understand that, my question remains, I cannot think of a single reason to criticize Chairman Milley’s tenure
In particular standing up to a tyrannical and disgraced, twice impeached former president currently under criminal indictment who attempted to overthrow American democracy
That took great courage
In particular standing up to a tyrannical and disgraced, twice impeached former president currently under criminal indictment who attempted to overthrow American democracy
That took great courage
For some single issue folks that assumption is enough and the failure to stand up and be counted on other issues and events is discounted or ignored.
Even a predecessor had concerns his appropriately adhering to the principle of civilian control of the military.....and who has been very much involved in speaking out on political issues. himself rather than focusing upon his gardening post retirement.
Despite the popular thought that Generals and Admirals are apolitical that is not exactly the case as the "politics" of promotion play a role in the climb up the greasy pole of rank.....remembering it is politicians in the US Senate that pass judgement upon who gets promoted to the most senior positions and rank.
The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs position requires a nomination by the President and a vote by the US Senate following formal Hearing Process.
Even a predecessor had concerns his appropriately adhering to the principle of civilian control of the military.....and who has been very much involved in speaking out on political issues. himself rather than focusing upon his gardening post retirement.
Despite the popular thought that Generals and Admirals are apolitical that is not exactly the case as the "politics" of promotion play a role in the climb up the greasy pole of rank.....remembering it is politicians in the US Senate that pass judgement upon who gets promoted to the most senior positions and rank.
The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs position requires a nomination by the President and a vote by the US Senate following formal Hearing Process.
For some single issue folks that assumption is enough and the failure to stand up and be counted on other issues and events is discounted or ignored.
Even a predecessor had concerns his appropriately adhering to the principle of civilian control of the military.....and who has been very much involved in speaking out on political issues. himself rather than focusing upon his gardening post retirement.
Despite the popular thought that Generals and Admirals are apolitical that is not exactly the case as the "politics" of promotion play a role in the climb up the greasy pole of rank.....remembering it is politicians in the US Senate that pass judgement upon who gets promoted to the most senior positions and rank.
The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs position requires a nomination by the President and a vote by the US Senate following formal Hearing Process.
Even a predecessor had concerns his appropriately adhering to the principle of civilian control of the military.....and who has been very much involved in speaking out on political issues. himself rather than focusing upon his gardening post retirement.
Despite the popular thought that Generals and Admirals are apolitical that is not exactly the case as the "politics" of promotion play a role in the climb up the greasy pole of rank.....remembering it is politicians in the US Senate that pass judgement upon who gets promoted to the most senior positions and rank.
The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs position requires a nomination by the President and a vote by the US Senate following formal Hearing Process.
I am missing your point here
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Get someone to explain it to you.
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this thread is weird - lots of insinuations but no description (other than the single "standing up..") of why either the outgoing or incoming officer is good, bad or indifferent
Nudge, nudge, wink wink - say no more squire!
Nudge, nudge, wink wink - say no more squire!
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For you clueless....since you cannot grasp the obvious....or at least claim to not be able to for some reason.
If you have to pass muster by a popular vote of 100 Senators after being chosen by a President in order to achieve either Rank or Position.....one must make one's self acceptable to obtain that selection and majority vote.
That is one side of the passage to Stardom....the other is you must curry favor with your superiors in uniform to obtain a good evaluation and thus advance in that. pathway.
Standing up to either a Superior or any of the powers that be is not the favored path to success and it takes a rare Bird (think rank insignia here) that did or will do that that makes it to the top of the food chain.
Staff pukes and ring kissers and not warriors are the most likely to prosper and see the most senior ranks and positions.
The "system" is the problem and what you see in the highest levels of command in the US Military are those that know how to game the system and have won the prize..
When one average eval can scuttle you....and it takes a President to pick your name out of the hat and the Senate to vote on that pick......figure it out who wins that selection process.
There....spelled it out for you.....can you now grasp that it requires a military politician belonging to the current "correct" school of thought to ascend to the very top end of the Totem Pole.
Politics plays a role in the military.....perhaps not pure rank partisan politics in the conventional definition but politics none the less.
If you have to pass muster by a popular vote of 100 Senators after being chosen by a President in order to achieve either Rank or Position.....one must make one's self acceptable to obtain that selection and majority vote.
That is one side of the passage to Stardom....the other is you must curry favor with your superiors in uniform to obtain a good evaluation and thus advance in that. pathway.
Standing up to either a Superior or any of the powers that be is not the favored path to success and it takes a rare Bird (think rank insignia here) that did or will do that that makes it to the top of the food chain.
Staff pukes and ring kissers and not warriors are the most likely to prosper and see the most senior ranks and positions.
The "system" is the problem and what you see in the highest levels of command in the US Military are those that know how to game the system and have won the prize..
When one average eval can scuttle you....and it takes a President to pick your name out of the hat and the Senate to vote on that pick......figure it out who wins that selection process.
There....spelled it out for you.....can you now grasp that it requires a military politician belonging to the current "correct" school of thought to ascend to the very top end of the Totem Pole.
Politics plays a role in the military.....perhaps not pure rank partisan politics in the conventional definition but politics none the less.
For you clueless....since you cannot grasp the obvious....or at least claim to not be able to for some reason.
If you have to pass muster by a popular vote of 100 Senators after being chosen by a President in order to achieve either Rank or Position.....one must make one's self acceptable to obtain that selection and majority vote.
That is one side of the passage to Stardom....the other is you must curry favor with your superiors in uniform to obtain a good evaluation and thus advance in that. pathway.
Standing up to either a Superior or any of the powers that be is not the favored path to success and it takes a rare Bird (think rank insignia here) that did or will do that that makes it to the top of the food chain.
Staff pukes and ring kissers and not warriors are the most likely to prosper and see the most senior ranks and positions.
The "system" is the problem and what you see in the highest levels of command in the US Military are those that know how to game the system and have won the prize..
When one average eval can scuttle you....and it takes a President to pick your name out of the hat and the Senate to vote on that pick......figure it out who wins that selection process.
There....spelled it out for you.....can you now grasp that it requires a military politician belonging to the current "correct" school of thought to ascend to the very top end of the Totem Pole.
Politics plays a role in the military.....perhaps not pure rank partisan politics in the conventional definition but politics none the less.
If you have to pass muster by a popular vote of 100 Senators after being chosen by a President in order to achieve either Rank or Position.....one must make one's self acceptable to obtain that selection and majority vote.
That is one side of the passage to Stardom....the other is you must curry favor with your superiors in uniform to obtain a good evaluation and thus advance in that. pathway.
Standing up to either a Superior or any of the powers that be is not the favored path to success and it takes a rare Bird (think rank insignia here) that did or will do that that makes it to the top of the food chain.
Staff pukes and ring kissers and not warriors are the most likely to prosper and see the most senior ranks and positions.
The "system" is the problem and what you see in the highest levels of command in the US Military are those that know how to game the system and have won the prize..
When one average eval can scuttle you....and it takes a President to pick your name out of the hat and the Senate to vote on that pick......figure it out who wins that selection process.
There....spelled it out for you.....can you now grasp that it requires a military politician belonging to the current "correct" school of thought to ascend to the very top end of the Totem Pole.
Politics plays a role in the military.....perhaps not pure rank partisan politics in the conventional definition but politics none the less.
"Politics plays a role in the military.."
Always did - Lincoln was very wary of promoting Grant until he discovered that Grant wasn't interested in being President but in winning the war.
And don't go near the politics of the Confederacy...................
Always did - Lincoln was very wary of promoting Grant until he discovered that Grant wasn't interested in being President but in winning the war.
And don't go near the politics of the Confederacy...................
I seriously doubt that.
There is a great deal of truth in the points SASless made in terms of how the system works at the flag officer level.
As a good Colonel once pointed out to me: "Once you become a general or an admiral, you are at the interface of the political and the military whether you like it or not. You have to deal with politics"
He then nodded to myself and four other field grade officers.
"Since you work for the general, on his staff, you too must know that the political has become a part of your life. You don't get to ignore it."
I do not share SASless's low opinion of General Milley.
As a CJCS goes, he's about middle of the road. It's a tough job to do well.
He has been the object of numerous barbs from both political parties during his tenure, depending on the topic.
It comes with the badge.
Also: what sandiego89 said. Good points all.
All that shows is a lack of thinking, or perhaps the application of the halo effect due to your own biases. Since it isn't your country, and it isn't your military that he's been leading, I can understand simple ignorance, but not what appears to be willful ignorance.
With that critique aside, I think he handled the difficulties at the end of the previous administration well enough, given what a novel challenge that was.
His latest challenge is no slouch ...
There is a great deal of truth in the points SASless made in terms of how the system works at the flag officer level.
As a good Colonel once pointed out to me: "Once you become a general or an admiral, you are at the interface of the political and the military whether you like it or not. You have to deal with politics"
He then nodded to myself and four other field grade officers.
"Since you work for the general, on his staff, you too must know that the political has become a part of your life. You don't get to ignore it."
I do not share SASless's low opinion of General Milley.
As a CJCS goes, he's about middle of the road. It's a tough job to do well.
He has been the object of numerous barbs from both political parties during his tenure, depending on the topic.
It comes with the badge.
Also: what sandiego89 said. Good points all.
With that critique aside, I think he handled the difficulties at the end of the previous administration well enough, given what a novel challenge that was.
His latest challenge is no slouch ...
U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley is working to coordinate calls with Sudanese military chief Abdel Fattah al-Burhan and the head of the Rapid Support Forces (RSF), Mohamed Hamdan “Hemeti” Dagalo, three sources familiar with the plan told SitRep, underscoring the high level attention this crisis is receiving from top military brass.
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