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Old 1st Jul 2023, 08:34
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Originally Posted by BBadanov
The RCAF order for the P-8A is logical and sensible. Poseidon operators include USN, RAAF, RNZAF and RAF - and some NATO allies.
Really - like JSF - the only show in town. The P-1 may be capable, if anyone can decipher the Japanese specs, but how interoperable?
There is no order as yet. Just a potential requirement.
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There is no order as yet. Just a potential requirement.
​​​​​I did a double-take when a picture of a P-8 in Canadian markings appeared in a news report about the Titan SAR effort. Some journalist must have stumbled across a Boeing visualisation.
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Originally Posted by pr00ne
There is no order as yet. Just a potential requirement.
is a "potential Requirement " better or worse than "an aspiration"?

We need a regulated set of weasel words on here
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
is a "potential Requirement " better or worse than "an aspiration"?
We need a regulated set of weasel words on here
The terms are used by people who live in the real world and know these decisions are always complex and difficult. The weasel words are used by those who only offer shallow and simplistic criticism.
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Old 2nd Jul 2023, 08:10
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So - every politician I guess......................

We al know how the size of orders declines steadily the closer you get to actually buying - and even afterwards.

The cynical factor that in when they hear the original statements but the hopeful always feel betrayed as the number of platforms reduces year by year
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https://www.defensenews.com/air/2023...-billion-deal/

VICTORIA, British Columbia — The Canadian military will start receiving in 2026 Boeing-made P-8A Poseidons it is buying through a deal worth $5.9 billion.

Canadian cabinet ministers, including Defence Minister Bill Blair, made the official announcement Thursday, but defense observers had long expected it after Canada earlier this year requested from the U.S. pricing on the P-8.

Canada will initially acquire 14 of the planes with the option to buy two additional P-8s at a later date.

Blair said the aircraft should be all delivered by the fall of 2027 and the fleet fully operational by 2033.

The P-8A will replace Canada’s current maritime patrol aircraft, the CP-140 Aurora, which has been in service for more than 40 years.
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Originally Posted by Big Pistons Forever
. Sadly Canada has learned nothing from the disastrous Cyclone helicopter procurement.
And the Victoria (Upholder) class submarines before that. And so many others. ad nauseum...
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And the Victoria (Upholder) class submarines before that. And so many others. ad nauseum...

They have made 3 well thought out and reasonable defence discissions this year (F-35, MRTT and P-8's)
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Old 2nd Dec 2023, 07:26
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Does EVERYONE who orders the P-8 order more than the RAF?
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Old 2nd Dec 2023, 07:46
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"Blair said the aircraft should be all delivered by the fall of 2027 and the fleet fully operational by 2033."

The UK lack of orders is really a disgrace
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Old 20th Dec 2023, 21:43
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Originally Posted by pr00ne
Does EVERYONE who orders the P-8 order more than the RAF?
RNZAF? To be fair, it wasn’t the RAF who ordered the P-8, it was Strat Com (nee JFC).
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Old 20th Dec 2023, 23:06
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Originally Posted by Roland Pulfrew
RNZAF? To be fair, it wasn’t the RAF who ordered the P-8, it was Strat Com (nee JFC).
Only just has the UK ordered more!

and bizarrely does not have many more T-6 Texans than the RNZAF - when you compare the size of the force
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Old 21st Dec 2023, 00:40
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My understanding is the firm commitment is for only 8 airframes. Given the history of CAF procurement that is almost certainly the total. So 8 P8's to replace 16 P3's. Yup that sounds about right
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Originally Posted by Big Pistons Forever
My understanding is the firm commitment is for only 8 airframes. Given the history of CAF procurement that is almost certainly the total. So 8 P8's to replace 16 P3's. Yup that sounds about right
Big Pistons, do you have a link to an article that states 8 frames? Everything I've see says up to sixteen frames
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Canadian P-8 Deal Report


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"The deal, worth $5.9 billion USD, will cover 14 P-8A aircraft while leaving an option to purchase two more. Notably, the Canadian announcement cites an “estimated investment in this project” of $10.4 billion CAD, which is $7.7 billion USD. The gap between the price of the planes themselves and the overall project is likely tied to infrastructure investments which will be needed to host the new planes."
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Old 22nd Dec 2023, 17:00
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Originally Posted by Roland Pulfrew
RNZAF? To be fair, it wasn’t the RAF who ordered the P-8, it was Strat Com (nee JFC).
No it wasn’t, it was Defence Equipment and Support on behalf of the RAF, overseen and supervised by very senior RAF officers.
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