Canada To Buy Up To 16 x P-8A
 

Boeing announcement

News Releases (mediaroom.com)

What does that mean? Are they going to build them in Canada?

PS We have a "defence" industry in Canada, eh? ;)

No, they're not going to establish a new production line in Canada for 16 jets.

Correct, of course they're not.
What the "Canada’s aerospace and defense industry” refers to is Boeing Canada doing deeper maintenance, perhaps even intermediate line servicing as probably the RCAF no longer have the capability.

If Canada were to obtain "up to 16 P-8As" - which I doubt, as they skimp on Defence spending - they would join the other 5-eyes Commonwealth countries: Australia 14 x P-8As, UK 9 x P-8As, and NZ 4 x P-8As. So it does make sense - numbers would be in doubt, probably 10?

So Canada and Boeing are friends again? Or needs must, as there is no real alternative to P-8?

I'm surprised the Kawasaki P-1 isn't getting a look-in in any of these competitions, to be honest, but with every other 5-Eyes ally operating/ordering it, it was perhaps the only logical choice for Canada also.

Sounds more like the usual Canadian dithering, putting their toes in the water, sorta-committing....not-committing, see what we can get out of it with big-numbers, then finally decide to get a few....all while their planes fall out of the air.....

In Germany the P-1 was briefly in discussion but it seems even the manuals weren't yet available in English and it was considered to high of a risk from an overall Program perspective (set up Maintenance/Training/Support/continued development and everthing around it) while being technically indeed quite interesting.

sounds liek the Brits - start with a need, move it to an "aspiration", buy a few, defer or cancel some of those......................

The US State Department has now notified Congress of the potential sale. If they buy the full 16 that would be one more that the current CP-140s

https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/maj...-p-8a-aircraft

I believe that Japanese defence contractors / government dont have any flexibility. It came up with the possible purchase of Soryu class subs by Australia. A few examples I have seen mentioned, Japan wouldn't give details of specification and capabilities until the contract was signed. Japan was unwilling / unable to do anything locally. It even talk a substantial amount of negoiation to get even basic maintainence done in aus. They would change or adapt the subs they were as designed, Australian subs are mixed sex crews, japanes aren't they were unwilling to do any mods to account for mixed sex crews.

That attitude is changing as Japanese defence contractors get more experience, but it seems to be a real thing

On the bright side, the NATO interoperability bit is helped by this choice.
Grats to the Canadian forces, let's hope they get the whole.

As to "will the whole lot get picked up?" ...
... I was hoping the USAF would get the whole lot of F-22's but that buy got cut substantially.
I was hoping the USAF would get the original 180 or so C-17's ... but that buy got cut.
The B-2 IIRC was originally going to be substantially more than the 20 ish that got purchased.
The F-15X numbers have shrunk at least once.
And so on ...

Not to nit-pick, but the USAF actually bought more than the original 180 C-17s - over 220 in fact (although IIRC the rate was somewhat slower than originally planned).

You forget there are dozens of '737s on the Boeing lot just waiting for a buyer.

A P-8 is built as a P-8. It is not a modified commercial 737.

Exactly - the P-8s come off a dedicated (ITAR Controlled) final assembly line.
Plus, the P-8 is based on the 737NG, not the MAX.

I would have preferred that it went to an rfp tender. could not 24 global 6500 with the swordfish MPA mod not have been built in canada?

There are many reasons that the Global MPA is unsuited for Canada starting with the requirement to carry external stores. Nevertheless I am sure that is what the RCAF will, eventually, after a painfully drawn out process get. This is going to be just like the Buffalo replacement. Late, dramatically over budget, and not fit for purpose....

Sadly Canada has learned nothing from the disastrous Cyclone helicopter procurement.

The RCAF order for the P-8A is logical and sensible. Poseidon operators include USN, RAAF, RNZAF and RAF - and some NATO allies.
Really - like JSF - the only show in town. The P-1 may be capable, if anyone can decipher the Japanese specs, but how interoperable?