Argentina withdraws from Falklands agreement.
I doubt the Brits will be caught with their pants down next time. One Astute-class sub could put half a dozen tomahawks into every airbase on mainland Argentina.
Indeed - tho more as a threat than a direct part on the action
Obviously the frequency of any SSN deployment to the FI is secret but every so often one is photographed at or near the islands. Quite how we can continue to square that with the current numbers of boats and their roles (say adding E of Suez) is an interesting point
Obviously the frequency of any SSN deployment to the FI is secret but every so often one is photographed at or near the islands. Quite how we can continue to square that with the current numbers of boats and their roles (say adding E of Suez) is an interesting point
Indeed - tho more as a threat than a direct part on the action
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Not that easy to find a Brit who wants to go either. But I did have a senior forecaster on my books whose presence was notional: married to an Islander, he did 6 months there, six weeks leave in UK, and pottered around until the next flights south. "Never saw an English summer in years" he said.
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When the TicToc at MPA learned of aircrews' requests for the latest TAF for EGYP, some dim pongo wondered why we were interested in the Egyptian weather.....
Not that easy to find a Brit who wants to go either. But I did have a senior forecaster on my books whose presence was notional: married to an Islander, he did 6 months there, six weeks leave in UK, and pottered around until the next flights south. "Never saw an English summer in years" he said.
The local radio presenters still always thank the forecaster by name for each forecast.
Current TAF: EGYP 091920Z 0921/1015 33015KT 9999 FEW025 BECMG 0921/0924 34016G26KT 520003 PROB30 TEMPO 0922/1015 VRB07KT 560003 PROB40 TEMPO 1000/1015 34026G36KT 530003 PROB30 TEMPO 1004/1009 SCT006
Dreadful place - wind from that direction is very tricky!
Dreadful place - wind from that direction is very tricky!
The ICAO guidance (Doc 7910) makes it clear that the codes have nothing to do with national borders or territorial issues, but should be based purely on geographic location.
There is a proviso that “in exceptional cases, geographical locations other than those served by the AFS may be given a location indicator at the discretion of the State having jurisdiction over the location concerned”, so presumably the EGYP allocation was to make a political point.
However, a code starting SF would have made the point just as well, as presumably the neighbours would consider that airports here should have codes starting SA**
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Check this thread for a detailed discussion on that!
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Let me tuck that blanket in and get you some soup.
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"The UK was struggling to reverse a diplomatic defeat over the Falkland Islands on Wednesday after the EU endorsed an Argentina-backed declaration referring to Islas Malvinas, the Argentine name for the disputed territory."
https://www.ft.com/content/68c0efff-...e-226f9e970733
UK battles to reverse EU endorsement of ‘Islas Malvinas’ name
Buenos Aires celebrates ‘diplomatic triumph’ after summit with European leaders uses Argentine term for Falkland Islands
The UK was struggling to reverse a diplomatic defeat over the Falkland Islands on Wednesday after the EU endorsed an Argentina-backed declaration referring to Islas Malvinas, the Argentine name for the disputed territory.
British diplomats requested that European Council president Charles Michel “clarify” the bloc’s position after Buenos Aires trumpeted a “diplomatic triumph” following a summit of EU leaders with Latin America and the Caribbean (Celac) leaders on Tuesday, according to EU and UK officials.
But the request fell on deaf ears. “This was agreed by 27 member states and the Celac countries,” said an EU official. “We cannot issue a statement on their behalf.
“The UK is not part of the EU. They are upset by the use of the word Malvinas. If they were in the EU perhaps they would have pushed back against it.”
The EU official added that “the Argentines have spun it in a certain way”.
The declaration said: “Regarding the question of sovereignty over the Islas Malvinas/Falkland Islands, the European Union took note of Celac’s historical position based on the importance of dialogue and respect for international law in the peaceful solution of disputes.”
It was endorsed by 32 of the 33 Celac countries, with Nicaragua refusing because of language on the war in Ukraine.
Buenos Aires said it was the first time the EU had officially recognised in a joint declaration the Latin American position on the islands, which calls for dialogue over their future and respect for international law.
Argentine foreign minister Santiago Cafiero said that “off the back of this declaration the Argentine government hopes to further expand dialogue with the EU regarding the question of the Malvinas Islands.
“This joint declaration constitutes a further call from the international community for the UK to agree to meet its obligation to resume sovereignty negotiations with Argentina,” he added.
UK foreign secretary James Cleverly had asked Brussels to keep the Falklands out of the declaration in the run-up to the summit, according to officials from London and Brussels.
A figure close to Cleverly said: “The Argentine government can lobby whoever they wish but it doesn’t change the fact that the Falkland Islands are British. That is the clear will of the Falkland Islanders. Ten years ago, 99.8 per cent of Falkland Islanders who voted said they wanted to stay a part of the UK family.
“Our commitment to that decision is unwavering and will continue to be so.
” Peter Stano, spokesman for the European External Action Service, said: “The EU member states have not changed their views/positions concerning the Falklands/Malvinas Islands. The EU is not in a situation to express any position on the Falklands/Malvinas, as there has not been any council [of member states] discussion or decision on this matter.”
He added: “The EU does not take any position on such issues without a council mandate.”
https://www.ft.com/content/68c0efff-...e-226f9e970733
UK battles to reverse EU endorsement of ‘Islas Malvinas’ name
Buenos Aires celebrates ‘diplomatic triumph’ after summit with European leaders uses Argentine term for Falkland Islands
The UK was struggling to reverse a diplomatic defeat over the Falkland Islands on Wednesday after the EU endorsed an Argentina-backed declaration referring to Islas Malvinas, the Argentine name for the disputed territory.
British diplomats requested that European Council president Charles Michel “clarify” the bloc’s position after Buenos Aires trumpeted a “diplomatic triumph” following a summit of EU leaders with Latin America and the Caribbean (Celac) leaders on Tuesday, according to EU and UK officials.
But the request fell on deaf ears. “This was agreed by 27 member states and the Celac countries,” said an EU official. “We cannot issue a statement on their behalf.
“The UK is not part of the EU. They are upset by the use of the word Malvinas. If they were in the EU perhaps they would have pushed back against it.”
The EU official added that “the Argentines have spun it in a certain way”.
The declaration said: “Regarding the question of sovereignty over the Islas Malvinas/Falkland Islands, the European Union took note of Celac’s historical position based on the importance of dialogue and respect for international law in the peaceful solution of disputes.”
It was endorsed by 32 of the 33 Celac countries, with Nicaragua refusing because of language on the war in Ukraine.
Buenos Aires said it was the first time the EU had officially recognised in a joint declaration the Latin American position on the islands, which calls for dialogue over their future and respect for international law.
Argentine foreign minister Santiago Cafiero said that “off the back of this declaration the Argentine government hopes to further expand dialogue with the EU regarding the question of the Malvinas Islands.
“This joint declaration constitutes a further call from the international community for the UK to agree to meet its obligation to resume sovereignty negotiations with Argentina,” he added.
UK foreign secretary James Cleverly had asked Brussels to keep the Falklands out of the declaration in the run-up to the summit, according to officials from London and Brussels.
A figure close to Cleverly said: “The Argentine government can lobby whoever they wish but it doesn’t change the fact that the Falkland Islands are British. That is the clear will of the Falkland Islanders. Ten years ago, 99.8 per cent of Falkland Islanders who voted said they wanted to stay a part of the UK family.
“Our commitment to that decision is unwavering and will continue to be so.
” Peter Stano, spokesman for the European External Action Service, said: “The EU member states have not changed their views/positions concerning the Falklands/Malvinas Islands. The EU is not in a situation to express any position on the Falklands/Malvinas, as there has not been any council [of member states] discussion or decision on this matter.”
He added: “The EU does not take any position on such issues without a council mandate.”
“The UK is not part of the EU. They are upset by the use of the word Malvinas. If they were in the EU perhaps they would have pushed back against it.”
says it all - not that it has any real significance on the ground
says it all - not that it has any real significance on the ground
The declaration reads:
“Regarding the question of sovereignty over the Islas Malvinas/Falkland Islands, the European Union took note of Celac’s historical position based on the importance of dialogue and respect for international law in the peaceful solution of disputes.”
And the government in Buenos Aires calls this a "diplomatic triumph"? Really quite pathetic.
“Regarding the question of sovereignty over the Islas Malvinas/Falkland Islands, the European Union took note of Celac’s historical position based on the importance of dialogue and respect for international law in the peaceful solution of disputes.”
And the government in Buenos Aires calls this a "diplomatic triumph"? Really quite pathetic.
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But seriously, the EU is trying to get the Mercosur trade deal back on track, and given the feral nature of many Europeans, this shouldn't come as a surprise.
"The EU took note" this means "we don't care" in diplo-talk. They even called the island by their British name as well answering Argentina. I agree that this is not indicating any change in EU politics towards the Falkland Islands at all.
And the English Channel is the "Canal de la Mancha" for the Spanish, even when England (and yes, the weather) defeated the Invincible Armada in 1588. And so on and so forth.
According to the UN guidelines, the name Falklands / Malvinas or Malvinas / Falklands (depending if the main text is in English or Spanish) is correct.
According to the UN guidelines, the name Falklands / Malvinas or Malvinas / Falklands (depending if the main text is in English or Spanish) is correct.
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