RCAF - 'Inappropriate' fighter pilot nickname
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RCAF - 'Inappropriate' fighter pilot nickname
Two senior Air Force officers have been charged for allegedly failing to stop a group of fighter pilots from assigning an inappropriate nickname to another member in June.
Original complaint article here; https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cor...sign-1.6623411
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Ah didums! If the Canadian air force has got nothing better to do, perhaps they need to do something else.
I recall the little ditty "Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me".
I have been called various names, some of which alluded to my personal appearance. Perhaps my name on this site should be changed in case I'm upset that somebody might think I'm thick.
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I recall the little ditty "Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me".
I have been called various names, some of which alluded to my personal appearance. Perhaps my name on this site should be changed in case I'm upset that somebody might think I'm thick.
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From: Downeast
Oh Dear! However can we survive such a disaster!
First the Reds now this....whatever will FJ Pilots get up to. next.....dropping bomb on bad guys, shooting down opposition aircraft....there seems to be no limit to what they will do......singing bawdy songs while drinking!
This must be dealt with and harshly and not be left to get completely out of hand.
Odd....helicopter pilots never seem to get themselves into this predicaments......are we that much better behaved or just more sly in the way we go about it?
In my Chinook Unit you earned your Call Sign and once assigned said name you learned to live with it with protests of any kind only making it used in every conversation as often as possible.
Usually they were not flattering to the recipient as they mostly dealt with some act that drew attention to them for some reason that was a bit embarrassing to the name holder.
There was no Appeal Right....you got tagged and that was it.
First the Reds now this....whatever will FJ Pilots get up to. next.....dropping bomb on bad guys, shooting down opposition aircraft....there seems to be no limit to what they will do......singing bawdy songs while drinking!
This must be dealt with and harshly and not be left to get completely out of hand.
Odd....helicopter pilots never seem to get themselves into this predicaments......are we that much better behaved or just more sly in the way we go about it?
In my Chinook Unit you earned your Call Sign and once assigned said name you learned to live with it with protests of any kind only making it used in every conversation as often as possible.
Usually they were not flattering to the recipient as they mostly dealt with some act that drew attention to them for some reason that was a bit embarrassing to the name holder.
There was no Appeal Right....you got tagged and that was it.
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Salute!
Times have changed. And while the RAF folks here are talking about "inclusion" and such WRT the females..., USAF has had the gals around for many years, starting in the 70's, and then letting the gals fly fighters by mid-90's.
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-...ter-pilot-mom/
I kinda wonder what some of their tactical callsigns were. First T-bird gal was a Mudhen pilot and shorter than me! She was "Fifi". Then was the famous Hawg dirver that came back in reversion mode with lottsa holes in the jet - "Killer Chick"( Kim Campbell). Was she offended?
Gums sends...
Times have changed. And while the RAF folks here are talking about "inclusion" and such WRT the females..., USAF has had the gals around for many years, starting in the 70's, and then letting the gals fly fighters by mid-90's.
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-...ter-pilot-mom/
I kinda wonder what some of their tactical callsigns were. First T-bird gal was a Mudhen pilot and shorter than me! She was "Fifi". Then was the famous Hawg dirver that came back in reversion mode with lottsa holes in the jet - "Killer Chick"( Kim Campbell). Was she offended?
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Re the original news article it is possibly a tell that
Who would be in such a toxic environment where you are trained to be an aggressive killer yet must be fully aware of the diktats of '1984' and the woke, easily offended members of society 
In this case, the sources said, a young, recently-arrived second lieutenant was singled out over a rumour that he'd had a sexual fling during training with another second lieutenant — a woman who was in a committed same-sex relationship.
The female second lieutenant was also on temporary duty with 401 Fighter Squadron, which is co-located with 409 Squadron at Cold Lake. She heard about the derogatory call sign and initiated a complaint that was brought to Mask, the sources said.
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The Boys from Syracuse
Anyone remember the NY ANG 174th Fighter Wing (now Reaper unit 174th Attack Wing) known as the 'Boys from Syracuse'?? And because of a female pilot , a pentagon pin up complained,
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...-from-syracuse
the name got changed but in the article from the other side it was implied she was crap at her in operating the F-16C...in fact very serious issues.
cheers
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...-from-syracuse
the name got changed but in the article from the other side it was implied she was crap at her in operating the F-16C...in fact very serious issues.
cheers
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From: florida
Salute!
@ Dave.... Hot Lips got her name due to a sexual encounter that Radar was broadcasting over the camp speakers via a microphone in her tent and was telling the guy played by Robert Duvall "kiss my hot lips". Was the movie "Mash" and then a very successful TV series.
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From my history:
The Boys from Syracuse was one of the two Guard units we checked out in the Dragonfly back in 1970 and 1971 at Alexandria( before I went to the Sluf). The other was from Baltimore. Talk about bitter folks. They had been flying F-86's and were true "country club" units. To transition to the lowly A-37 that had two seats and two engines and had a completely different mission from the Sabre was a shock.
We also had a unit Green Mountain Boys from Vermont. Oh well, USAF has always been the most PC of the services, and at one time they even made several units change their patches. Symbols of "death" and such went away. Fortunately, the high level commanders changed and by 1980 we got some historic ones back, including the one I wore last day I ever flew the Viper. Somehow the US Navy never got the word and we saw the infamous skull and crossbones on the tails of one of their squad's jets.
Gums sends...
@ Dave.... Hot Lips got her name due to a sexual encounter that Radar was broadcasting over the camp speakers via a microphone in her tent and was telling the guy played by Robert Duvall "kiss my hot lips". Was the movie "Mash" and then a very successful TV series.
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From my history:
The Boys from Syracuse was one of the two Guard units we checked out in the Dragonfly back in 1970 and 1971 at Alexandria( before I went to the Sluf). The other was from Baltimore. Talk about bitter folks. They had been flying F-86's and were true "country club" units. To transition to the lowly A-37 that had two seats and two engines and had a completely different mission from the Sabre was a shock.
We also had a unit Green Mountain Boys from Vermont. Oh well, USAF has always been the most PC of the services, and at one time they even made several units change their patches. Symbols of "death" and such went away. Fortunately, the high level commanders changed and by 1980 we got some historic ones back, including the one I wore last day I ever flew the Viper. Somehow the US Navy never got the word and we saw the infamous skull and crossbones on the tails of one of their squad's jets.
Gums sends...
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