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Old 10th Sep 2023, 09:39
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I doubt he's really involved in this action - this argument goes a lot further back than Mr Putin. He may be encouraging one side but there'll be little Russian help as they're in over their necks in Ukraine.

The interesting thing is Turkey and Iran now squaring up to each other
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They’ve been squaring up against each other in Syria for the last 5 years as both vie to become the perceived major power in the ME, this is just another proxy….
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Seemingly all to do with something called the Lachin corridor.

Nagorno-Karabakh routes reopen in Lachin corridor deal, say Azeri and Armenian sides (The Guardian). Extract:-
Azerbaijan’s government and separatist Armenians in Nagorno-Karabakhappeared to strike a deal reopening two disputed transport links including a key route known as the Lachin corridor.

The moves – initially reported by Armenia’s Armenpress state news agency and confirmed by Azerbaijan – appear at least partly to grant the latter’s decades-old demand to restore transport links between Azeri government-held territory and Nagorno-Karabakh, where Armenians seized control in the 1990s.

Karabakh is recognised globally as part of Azerbaijan, but has been controlled by its population of about 120,000 ethnic Armenians since a war that coincided with the breakup of the Soviet Union in the 1980s and 90s.

Azerbaijan recaptured large swathes of Nagorno-Karabakh in a 2020 war, and for the past nine months has exerted pressure by restricting access to Armenia through the Lachin corridor.
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
I doubt he's really involved in this action - this argument goes a lot further back than Mr Putin. He may be encouraging one side but there'll be little Russian help as they're in over their necks in Ukraine.

The interesting thing is Turkey and Iran now squaring up to each other

Vlad still has the margin to inject himself into conflicts beyond Ukraine, look at Syria and Africa as a start. There are forces other than the traditional Russian military and Wagner for him the spread the flames of war.m

Disorder elsewhere better promotes Russian goals in Ukraine as well.
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Russia has just summoned Armenia's Ambassador to protest a series of "unfriendly steps" - they've signed the Rome Statute of the ICC, the PM's wife has visited Kyiv and are taking part in a NATO exercise next week...also the propoganda war is ramping up with the usual Russian social media posts attempting to confuse the picture of who's allied with who. Must just be a co-incidence that Azerbijan is now advancing with Russian "Peacekeepers" in lock step.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagorno-Karabakh_conflict is as good an explanation as any

The area has two interwoven groups of different ancestry and religions and both sides seem unable to live with the others - its the Balkans again.

The problems have gone on for years and will no doubt continue long after Mr Putin has departed the scene.

It doesn't help when either side turns to a bigger neighbour (Russia, Iran, Turkey etc) who decide to meddle for their own ends

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BREAKING:

Large scale fighting has just started in Nagorno-Karabakh.

Artillery and suicide drones are in action by both sides.

It’s possible that another war between Azerbaijan and Armenia is starting in front of our eyes.

Azerbaijan has launched a new war in Nagorno-Karabakh. Below is their statement announcing it. Multiple videos show artillery bombardment of Stepanakert. It is here.



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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66851975

Azerbaijan launches operation against Nagorno-Karabakh
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yup

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So much for that truce.
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need to get moving before the weather turns rough
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In The Guardian.
Why is there dispute over control of Nagorno-Karabakh?

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What is happening?

Azerbaijan has said its armed forces have launched what it called “local anti-terrorist activities” in the Nagorno-Karabakh region to restore constitutional order by disarming and forcing the withdrawal of Armenian military formations there.

Nagorno-Karabakh is recognised internationally as Azerbaijan’s territory but has a mostly Armenian population who have resisted Azerbaijani rule for more than a century. In 1991, the region of about 150,000 people declared independence and since then it has ruled itself – with Armenian support – as the unrecognised Republic of Artsakh.

On Tuesday, as the operation began, Azerbaijan’s defence ministry spoke of its intention to “disarm and secure the withdrawal of formations of Armenia’s armed forces from our territories, [and] neutralise their military infrastructure”.

Despite signs in the past of possible progress towards peace, one of Europe’s “frozen conflicts” has erupted again.
Click the link for full article, maps etc.
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Opening up a second front always works....imo purely the work of the russians as a regional escalation to distract both at home and abroad. Good luck Armenia.
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Shows how little Russia is now feared or respected as it weakens. I wonder if Chechnya and others are watching…

BREAKING:

A Russian military base has been destroyed by Azerbaijani shelling in the Karabakh region.
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After yesterday’s artillery barrage and drone strikes, the Army of Azerbaijan is now moving into the Karabakh region.

It seems that they have taken Charektar and Getavan in the west and the Sarsang dam in the east.



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as ever getting in is (relatively) easy - its staying there that proves to be the problem
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Old 20th Sep 2023, 11:37
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as ever getting in is (relatively) easy - its staying there that proves to be the problem
From what I’ve read their intentions seem to be to deport all the ethnic Armenians in the region to “safety” at the Armenian border and replace them with ethnic Azeris.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66863702

Nagorno-Karabakh forces agree Azerbaijan demand to disarm
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Old 20th Sep 2023, 12:10
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Originally Posted by Lyneham Lad
In The Guardian.
Why is there dispute over control of Nagorno-Karabakh?
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If it's mostly Armenians living there, so how did the UN not come to their aid as they did in Kosovo? Double standards much?
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