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Old 14th Oct 2022, 06:34
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Armenia and Azerbaijan: possible truce

Armenia and Azerbaijan have agreed to sign a formal peace deal which includes an official delimitation of the border by the end of the year.

I have moved this out of the Russia/Ukraine thread as it is a unique topic.
Over the past few years one of the MilAv interest points in this conflict is how military drones and other UAVs shaped the battlefield and the results.
One hopes that some of the membership have insights to offer about this conflict, particularly the drone/UAV angle, even though it will (hopefully) see its resolution in the near future.
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Delimitation is a tough business - people arguing fr days in dark rooms over "traditional rights" etc etc

Demarcation is a lot more fun - out in the open air putting up markers
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​​​​​​​Armenian news site Lurer reports that Azerbaijan has accumulated a large number of troops and military equipment on the Artsakh/Nagorno-Karabakh border with Azerbaijan. Bayraktar drones have reportedly also been brought near the border.
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Truce would appear to be in doubt.
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Spring - time to dust off the kit and the centuries old arguments
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BREAKING: The Azerbaijani Armed Forces have crossed the line of contact in the Shusha region of Nagorno-Karabakh.

Russian peacekeepers are taking measures to prevent the escalation of the "crisis situation", Russia's Defense Ministry says - TASS

​​​​​​​Russia's MoD says that they have told Azerbaijan to withdraw their troops from the new positions they have captured.

Russia's MoD also says that a ceasefire violation was recorded in the Martuni region of Nagorno-Karabakh…
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More trouble brewing.

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This looks like the standard Russian playbook again. They will continue to assist Azerbaijan - while pretending to be neutral peace keepers to the world.

Armenia is a fledgeling Democracy, and has shown a great deal of progress in the last few years, so under great threat from Putin. It's also a third of the size.

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This looks like the standard Russian playbook again. They will continue to assist Azerbaijan - while pretending to be neutral peace keepers to the world.

Armenia is a fledgeling Democracy, and has shown a great deal of progress in the last few years, so under great threat from Putin. It's also a third of the size.
Does Russia not suupport Armenia in this conflict? That is the traditional axis. Azerbaijan is closer to Turkey.

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/wh...conflict-38321
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Does Russia not suupport Armenia in this conflict? That is the traditional axis. Azerbaijan is closer to Turkey.

https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/wh...conflict-38321
Russia has a long history of playing both sides. A weakened Armenia would be easier to integrate into Russia, so helping Azerbaijan to weaken Armenia makes sense to Russia.
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No, all the evidence points towards Russia supporting Azerbaijan - an Authoritarian state rapidly gaining a reputation for murdering the opposition and journalists.

Armenia have made strides towards being a free society. Russia will end that.

Russia will use their psyops expertise to masquerade as neutral peace keepers for as long as they can get away with it, forcing back the Armenians and slowing the decision making of any potential defender until its too late. It's their classic move.
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Beardy, Low average, thank you for your insight.
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My Armenian friends think Russia backs the Azeri's
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Heavy Fighting between Azerbaijani and Armenian Forces is being reported North of the Village of Tegh near the Lachin Corridor in Eastern Armenia; what started as a small skirmish earlier now reportedly involves artillery and possible heavy armor, Fighting took place near Tegh during the Border Clashes in 2021 as well.

Significant Casualties are currently being reported by Armenian and Azerbaijani Media.

Initial reports now that aircraft/UAVs are actively involved in the fighting. Armenian forces are shelling the positions of the Azerbaijani army across the border near Tegh utilizing 120mm mortars and 152mm self-propelled and fixed artillery.

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Deputy Chief of the General Staff for the Armenian armed forces, Armen Gyozalyan, was reported as being injured, along with several other soldiers being killed, when they approached Azerbaijani positions for negotiations, at which point the Azerbaijani forces opened-fire on the group.

Armenian sources are now reporting that Gyozalyan has died from his Injuries.
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No, all the evidence points towards Russia supporting Azerbaijan - an Authoritarian state rapidly gaining a reputation for murdering the opposition and journalists.

Armenia have made strides towards being a free society. Russia will end that.

Russia will use their psyops expertise to masquerade as neutral peace keepers for as long as they can get away with it, forcing back the Armenians and slowing the decision making of any potential defender until its too late. It's their classic move.
Looks like it's now happening. Russia is moving against Armenia.
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Not a good sign:

The Azeri 🇦🇿 troops headed to the Armenian 🇦🇲 border have Ƶ painted on their vehicles.…



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… Iran’s President 🇮🇷, in a call to Armenia 🇦🇲, has said any change in the border region is a “red line” for Iran…..

⚡️ Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan 🇹🇷: “If Iran 🇮🇷 interferes in Azerbaijan's 🇦🇿 affairs, the Turkish Army 🇹🇷 will respond quickly.”
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Just what we need - a regional multi-country conflict.......................
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Just like Hitler, Putin will push in any direction he senses weakness.
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