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Her Majesty's funeral

Old 20th Sep 2022, 17:52
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Militarily a fine show all round
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Old 20th Sep 2022, 18:00
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Originally Posted by Trumpet trousers View Post
Possible Walt?
Did anyone see the bearded guy on the BBC coverage with a sand coloured beret adorned with an RAF other ranks SD cap badge?

Apart from that, I thought the BBC coverage was excellent, Huw Edwards was on top of his game, and Kirsty Young excelled I thought, and the emotion was clear to see as she signed off last night.

TT. The whole day was enthralling, the military participants were all magnificent and the planning and execution of ‘London Bridge’ (remember practising bits of it with a dust cart at Benson back in the 70s - it’s stood the test of time, for sure) was superb. The hundreds of thousands lining the route from London to Windsor quite took my breath away. The silent majority showing great respect. Awesome.

The retiring pipers will stay in my memory forever…as will our gracious Queen. (Thank you ma’am)

Re: WALT? - I did see, but he(?) Couldn’t possibly be a Walt. It was probably someone parachuted in from the ‘Beeb’ and who has been in the corporate dressing up box. Didn’t see much of KY, having been bored by HE earlier, I watched the ITV presentation which was excellent.

However, I can’t really agree with your assessment of the Beeb coverage. IMHO, They continued their week long banality in their evening coverage post funeral. When interviewing people watching events around the country, we were treated to the ‘how do you feel?’ question constantly. Particularly irritating was the obvious seeking out of minority groups….including BAME, ‘Pride’ members, mixed race families and a pair of anti monarchy lesbians. (The ‘Walt’ abomination was part of their Veterans piece, IIRC) Not very representative of the hundreds of thousands who were there, lining the streets.

All in the interests of balance the Beeb might say.

Agenda bending spin, I would say. (Just my opinion, you understand)




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Oh, the BBC coverage was abysmal IMO. Camera jumping from here to there, commentator now knowing who/why/what before the director jumped camera shots again. Or alternatively long periods of silence with no commentary, due to inadequate pre-briefing.
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Old 20th Sep 2022, 18:15
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Originally Posted by MPN11 View Post
Oh, the BBC coverage was abysmal IMO. Camera jumping from here to there, commentator now knowing who/why/what before the director jumped camera shots again. Or alternatively long periods of silence with no commentary, due to inadequate pre-briefing.
To be fair it was announced before the ceremony started that there would deliberately be little or no commentary to allow viewers to listen to proceedings uninterrupted.
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You have to feel for the member of the Bearer Party who had to march from Westminster Hall to the Abbey with his hat on back-to-front.
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Old 20th Sep 2022, 18:34
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Originally Posted by mahogany bob View Post
WEARING UNIFORM



Prince Andrew -with his obnoxious character and dubious lifestyle -and Prince Harry- role model,hero , Invictus inspiration but who has let down his many supporters with his defection to California - are both top of the royal unpopularity stakes.



BUT



They have both put their lives on the the line on active war service - Prince Andrew in the Falklands flying choppers ,distinctly hairy - and Prince Harry flying the amazing Apache in Afghanistan.



Not allowing them to wear their uniforms during most of the funeral occasions , whilst many others ,wha had never seen meaningful active service , were marching in uniform with a chestful of medals , left a bad taste in my mouth !



I think Royal Protocol erred in this case!
I think not. I have campaign medals and been shot at, but am no longer in the service so cannot wear a uniform. Loads of people in the armed services have seen meaningful service in hot op areas since 1990, being away for long times in shit holes, so I do disagree.
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Originally Posted by Video Mixdown View Post
To be fair it was announced before the ceremony started that there would deliberately be little or no commentary to allow viewers to listen to proceedings uninterrupted.
The Ceremony? Fair comment.
And the other hours of coverage? The arrival of dignitaries, the marching columns and all the rest of the day’s intense activity?
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Old 20th Sep 2022, 19:00
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The responsibility for ensuring that the commemoration went according to plan was the responsibility of The Garrison Sergeant Major

And "Vern" was the man on Monday

Very well done GSM Stokes

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Nearly 40yrs, light blue through and through, but total (and I do mean TOTAL) respect for the purple combination of pure brilliance on display.
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Originally Posted by langleybaston View Post
Stunned. Never in my 85 years have I been so impressed, inspired and proud to be British.

If I am exhausted by watching, what must be the feeling of the participants, from King Charles to the unsung security forces who delivered an incident free day which will echo down the years.

My most sincere thanks to all.
This was very much my feeling, I sat and watched it all from about 10.00hrs through to the completion of the BBC live coverage. Like you say, I was getting fatigue just watching it all, to have participated I can't imagine how I'd have managed. From lining the route to being in the procession, it certainly concentrated my mind. I particularly thought of the King and Princess Anne and others of that age group, to have marched back in full ceremonial uniform... or being one of the Pallbearers?

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But is it kosher?

It is almost beyond belief. Collateral, anybody?
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Originally Posted by langleybaston View Post
But is it kosher?

It is almost beyond belief. Collateral, anybody?
From some quick research it would appear this is a fake: the shape and cut of the bearskin would preclude the possibility of it being put on backwards.

Back to the thread topic…….
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DTS

I think not. I have campaign medals and been shot at, but am no longer in the service so cannot wear a uniform. Loads of people in the armed services have seen meaningful service in hot op areas since 1990, being away for long times in shit holes, so I do disagree.

Can retired officers wear their uniform UK?

Per DAFI 36-2903, February 2020 with updates: Retired Personnel. -- Retirees may wear the authorized uniform prescribed at the date of member's retirement or any of the uniforms authorized for current active duty personnel, including the dress uniforms.

Are YOU confused or am I ?

As I read it.

If you still have a uniform
it still fits?
you are able to march

You CAN wear it on parade?
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Old 21st Sep 2022, 08:00
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Originally Posted by mahogany bob View Post
DTS

I think not. I have campaign medals and been shot at, but am no longer in the service so cannot wear a uniform. Loads of people in the armed services have seen meaningful service in hot op areas since 1990, being away for long times in shit holes, so I do disagree.

Can retired officers wear their uniform UK?

Per DAFI 36-2903, February 2020 with updates: Retired Personnel. -- Retirees may wear the authorized uniform prescribed at the date of member's retirement or any of the uniforms authorized for current active duty personnel, including the dress uniforms.

Are YOU confused or am I ?

As I read it.

If you still have a uniform
it still fits?
you are able to march

You CAN wear it on parade?
I don't think American dress regulations have much bearing on a Royal funeral,.
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Old 21st Sep 2022, 08:12
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Sorry - I dialled in dress regs UK on Google!!
Which shows that one has to be very careful when using internet info!

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Today showed our Armed Forces at their absolute best and everyone involved should be very proud of their performance and contribution.

I would like to particularly praise the Bearer Party - they had such a huge responsibility and were under such close scrutiny for so much of the proceedings - very well done indeed gents.
Agree re the bearer party, great job. Chosen to all have the same height?
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Originally Posted by Senior Pilot View Post
From some quick research it would appear this is a fake: the shape and cut of the bearskin would preclude the possibility of it being put on backwards.

Back to the thread topic…….
It's gen, and if you've access to a recording of the event you'll be able to see our chum with his titfer on backwards.
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"Agree re the bearer party, great job. Chosen to all have the same height?"

I've ehard that they have TWO bearer parties nominated at any one time - chosen on height, unflappability and strength obviously - they keep in shape "just in case"
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AP 1358, CHAP 1 Page 9 of 21 AL17

0117. Occasions when No 1 Service Dress may be worn. Officers on the Retired and Reserve Lists, Royal Auxiliary Air Force officers and ex officers who are permitted to retain their rank may wear uniform on the following occasions: a. When attending: (1) Investitures and Royal Garden Parties. (2) State ceremonial occasions. (3) Parades in an official capacity, in connection with the celebration of the Sovereign’s birthday. (4) Their own wedding or other military weddings when the sponsor requests the wearing of uniform. (5) When attending formal Service functions. b. When participating in an official capacity, in: (1) Non-Service parades. (2) War Memorial services and associated parades. c. When inspecting or visiting: (1) RAuxAF units in an official capacity. (2) Units of the Combined Cadet Force (CCF) of the Air Training Corps (ATC) on behalf of the Ministry of Defence or Territorial and Auxiliary Forces Associations. d. When appointed for service with the ATC (the rank badges to be worn are those appropriate to the ATC appointment). e. When on duty as officials duly appointed by the Ministry of Defence. f. When holding the appointments of ADC to Her Majesty’s Governor General or Governor. g. When holding the appointment of Lord Lieutenant or Deputy Lord Lieutenant of a county, High Sheriff or Sheriff and discharging the duties of that appointment. (Lieutenancy insignia may not be worn on RAF dress but entitled RAF flying badges may be worn on the Lieutenancy dress). Wearing the Uniform of Voluntary Organisations.
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Originally Posted by diginagain View Post
It's gen, and if you've access to a recording of the event you'll be able to see our chum with his titfer on backwards.
Access is easy on youtube and for the life of me I cannot agree with you.

Question: what rank is "our chum".?

Comment: he has a bearer behind him, and a SNCO or WO very close beside/ behind. There was every opportunity to put any error right. The bearers were not under arms.
ARRSE, who one would expect to get excited, appear to have no visibility.

Please provide an enlargement: one would expect to see a white plume/ no white plume disparity in the party.
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