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Reported Pause in RAF White Recruiting To Meet Diversity Targets

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Old 16th Aug 2022, 18:55
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Positive discrimination is illegal so if this true the RAF is breaking the law. My police force fell foul of that a while ago when they stopped recruiting white males-guess what they ended on the wrong side of the law themselves.
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Call me simplistic but isn't the best way to find a good pilot bung anyone in a plane and see how good they are at flying it?
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GeeRam, you and me both! Targets are something that we used to attack (with varied results!). Personnel, of whatever trade, are those best suited/qualified for the job and it does not matter what race, colour or creed they are if they meet this criterion and take the oath! One of my best mates was a Trinidadian navigator, that was in 1962, not many around then but he entered in the same way as any other aircrew officer and was brilliant in all ways! (Don't often say that about navs!!) Thre is something seriously amiss at present and I can only think it stems from the very top!!
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Originally Posted by vascodegama
Positive discrimination is illegal so if this true the RAF is breaking the law. My police force fell foul of that a while ago when they stopped recruiting white males-guess what they ended on the wrong side of the law themselves.
It isn't illegal if the two applicants are equally as well suited to the role. Good luck proving that the RAF has fallen foul of the law on this.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 19:08
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Originally Posted by vascodegama
Positive discrimination is illegal so if this true the RAF is breaking the law. My police force fell foul of that a while ago when they stopped recruiting white males-guess what they ended on the wrong side of the law themselves.
Was that the Cheshire police case?
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Wigston has to go before he does any more damage.
There's also this: https://www.raf.mod.uk/news/articles...fence-charter/
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 19:12
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Yes

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...yside-47335859
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 19:12
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Wigston should be having hats on, no coffee or biscuits interview, with the Defence Secretary to give explanations of his racist and sexist discrimination regarding recruitment to what used to be the best air force in the world.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 19:25
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The Americans had a problem with 'positive discrimination". "Are you a real major or equality tick?"
EVERYONE must compete on a level platform - equal opportunity, best outcome.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 19:27
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Ewan, what is illegal to have a policy that , for example, stops recruitment of a particular group ( eg white males). If there is such a policy it is positive discrimination not positive action and against the law. Yes at the final stage of choosing between 2 otherwise equal candidates, one might use positive action but if you are not even looking at a certain group at the recruiting stage then you are acting illegally. Of course it would n’t be the first time the service has broken the law.

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And by pausing the White recruitment they must be discriminating as they are not giving an equal opportunity by barring one applicant.
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I despair. I’d love to think it was nonsense, but when you look at how PC Defence in the round and the RAF in particular has become, it’s hard not to think there’s no smoke without fire.
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First the red Arrows scandal and now this, Wigston/Wokeston has to go. Has this chap been struck by Lightning or something?

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At least he will be able to say 'Happy Christmas' to CASWO in whatever manner he chooses!
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i just hope there is not one ounce of truth in this headline. What a really sad state of affairs the RAF has become, Eternally glad to be on the outside looking in but feel for those still serving.
Senior leadership has fallen to an all time low.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 21:34
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Originally Posted by MPN11
I joined in 1965 and left in 1993.
1965 -132k
1993 - 81k

2016 - 33k

Interesting FOO link >>> https://assets.publishing.service.go...2017-04440.pdf

I have always subscribed to the best man/woman for the job.
You left the RAF 15 years before I did? I am 13 years out of touch now. You actually spoke to parents of kids that are in training today? I did this weekend. Her kid was loving it in training.
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Old 16th Aug 2022, 21:37
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The head of RAF recruitment has resigned in protest at an "effective pause" on offering jobs to white male recruits in favour of women and ethnic minorities, defence sources have claimed.

The senior female officer apparently handed in her notice in recent days amid concerns that any such restrictions on hiring, however temporary and limited, could undermine the fighting strength of the Royal Air Force (RAF), the sources said.
https://news.sky.com/story/raf-pause...rgets-12674409



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From the sky link

Hundreds of junior pilots are either waiting for slots on courses to open up or taking refresher courses even though Ben Wallace, the defence secretary, gave Air Chief Marshal Wigston the task of fixing flying training as his "only priority" more than two and a half years ago.
He needs to fall on his sword, however, he has probably had any sharpes blunted to prevent any industrial accidents.

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Old 16th Aug 2022, 21:58
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
From the sky link

Hundreds of junior pilots are either waiting for slots on courses to open up or taking refresher courses even though Ben Wallace, the defence secretary, gave Air Chief Marshal Wigston the task of fixing flying training as his "only priority" more than two and a half years ago.
He needs to fall on his sword, however, he has probably had any. sharpes blunted to prevent 8ndustrial acciden
You been on the gin?

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Whatever nonsense is going on in the upper echelons, my heart goes out to all ranks in the front line who are desperately trying to get the job done DESPITE their leaders. BZ to all of them.
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