Reported Pause in RAF White Recruiting To Meet Diversity Targets
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Has anyone seen the RAF Air Cadets web page??
What the hell were they thinking??
https://www.raf.mod.uk/aircadets/
What the hell were they thinking??
https://www.raf.mod.uk/aircadets/
Sorry, I just noticed the rest of my post after the link didn't get posted...
How this can be diverse, I do not know...
Where are the Oriental and far East representatives? Where are the Indians, the Pakastani and other Ethnic Asian nationalities? The South Americans? Hispanics? Latinos? Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders? etc. etc.
How can the page be diverse if you only concentrate your 'diversity' on only one non white 'racial' group and exclude all others? It's just the same in 98% of all adverts on TV and Cinema...
If you want to preach diversity, for 'Oompa Loompas' sake*, at least include all the other racial and ethnic groups instead of concentrating on just one!!
* Oompa Loompas are fictional character from Roald Dahls C in the CF, not an alternative name for a religious or racial group!
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Has anyone seen the RAF Air Cadets web page??
What the hell were they thinking??
https://www.raf.mod.uk/aircadets/
What the hell were they thinking??
https://www.raf.mod.uk/aircadets/
Re. the Air Cadets:
You are not supposed to notice, let alone comment.
We are entering the era when the token straight unhandicapped white male will be deemed essential in all media and adverts.
You are not supposed to notice, let alone comment.
We are entering the era when the token straight unhandicapped white male will be deemed essential in all media and adverts.
Last edited by langleybaston; 29th Aug 2022 at 11:45. Reason: clarity
Recruiting Films 1970s: Phantoms roaring off, Jaguars struggling to get airborne, fire trucks, police dogs, ATC, proper meals in messes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE8d9l4JyJI
Recruiting Video 2019: all D&I and of limited appeal with almost no front-line element
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X98EyRzQak8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE8d9l4JyJI
Recruiting Video 2019: all D&I and of limited appeal with almost no front-line element
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X98EyRzQak8
Signed,
A No2 Hairy Mary Dinosaur.
The thing is that the videos are made for you anymore. They are made for 16-25ish..... What appealed to us, won't read directly across to the modern youth.
For instance I thought the "Their county needs you" adverts from the mid-late 90s were great, but I'm told that was not a very successful advert at all. Apparently one of the most effective ones was where the guy was in a supermarket and got a small cut but the employer made a massive fuss, the implication being the RAF would look after you....
For instance I thought the "Their county needs you" adverts from the mid-late 90s were great, but I'm told that was not a very successful advert at all. Apparently one of the most effective ones was where the guy was in a supermarket and got a small cut but the employer made a massive fuss, the implication being the RAF would look after you....
The thing is that the videos are made for you anymore. They are made for 16-25ish..... What appealed to us, won't read directly across to the modern youth.
For instance I thought the "Their county needs you" adverts from the mid-late 90s were great, but I'm told that was not a very successful advert at all. Apparently one of the most effective ones was where the guy was in a supermarket and got a small cut but the employer made a massive fuss, the implication being the RAF would look after you....
For instance I thought the "Their county needs you" adverts from the mid-late 90s were great, but I'm told that was not a very successful advert at all. Apparently one of the most effective ones was where the guy was in a supermarket and got a small cut but the employer made a massive fuss, the implication being the RAF would look after you....
When I was in recruiting one of the most common misconceptions was that we run your life 24/7 and control you. Also that you were locked in for 20 or so years.
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When I was in recruiting one of the most common misconceptions was that we run your life 24/7 and control you. Also that you were locked in for 20 or so years.[/QUOTE]
Isn’t that the wife’s job description?
When I was in recruiting one of the most common misconceptions was that we run your life 24/7 and control you. Also that you were locked in for 20 or so years.[/QUOTE]
Isn’t that the wife’s job description?
Along similar lines , tho’ it ain’t recruitment , the BBC blurb about NASA’s Artemis mission yesterday evening, ended by emphasising NASA’s aim to put the 1st female ( they didn’t say ‘Woman’ ) and 1st person of colour on the moon.
No mention of the science.
A quick Google puts each launch - without landings , occupation etc- at a cool $4.1 billion , the overall cost at over $40 billion.
That’s an awful lot of wonga but they’ll feel good about the 1sts.
As for the situation in Blighty , you only need to count the massive OVERemphasis on diversity in the media , as someone’s already mentioned.
The current RAF television advert’s potential recruit is ‘A female of colour’ & that’s by design.
A good 80% of tv adverts don’t have non mixed race people in them.
However , in even mentioning it , I am now presumed to be a racist / sexist et al.
Things really would have ground to a halt if the forces were trying to achieve the UK diversity mix that TV advertising has already done!
No mention of the science.
A quick Google puts each launch - without landings , occupation etc- at a cool $4.1 billion , the overall cost at over $40 billion.
That’s an awful lot of wonga but they’ll feel good about the 1sts.
As for the situation in Blighty , you only need to count the massive OVERemphasis on diversity in the media , as someone’s already mentioned.
The current RAF television advert’s potential recruit is ‘A female of colour’ & that’s by design.
A good 80% of tv adverts don’t have non mixed race people in them.
However , in even mentioning it , I am now presumed to be a racist / sexist et al.
Things really would have ground to a halt if the forces were trying to achieve the UK diversity mix that TV advertising has already done!
That reminds me!
We see virtually no TV except sport, and that only when we visit family. We completely broke the TV habit early in Covid: too depressing.
Recently we have seen a lot of cricket, and have been amazed by the advertisements. Leaving aside that we don't understand half of them, we are struck by the large proportion of BAME actors, far far more than the percentages quoted upstream. I had not focussed on this piece of trivia until SWMBO shouted "an all-white cast!" last night.
It is probably politically incorrect to draw attention to the observation, but, if our armed forces are trying to be representative, why not the meejah?
Have a look and see for yourselves.
We see virtually no TV except sport, and that only when we visit family. We completely broke the TV habit early in Covid: too depressing.
Recently we have seen a lot of cricket, and have been amazed by the advertisements. Leaving aside that we don't understand half of them, we are struck by the large proportion of BAME actors, far far more than the percentages quoted upstream. I had not focussed on this piece of trivia until SWMBO shouted "an all-white cast!" last night.
It is probably politically incorrect to draw attention to the observation, but, if our armed forces are trying to be representative, why not the meejah?
Have a look and see for yourselves.
Been saying this for years…..it’s dreadful and skews the public perception.
it seems the meejah agenda benders have been to the goebellian school of propaganda. The adverts are no longer even subliminal. It is clear from them that the UK population is made up of around 60-80% BAME in their 30s. The rest is made up of LGBGTQ+woteva with a small - a very very small - proportion of middle aged WASPs. We are clearly a minority grouping now..but we will not have any rights ourselves…OL(especially wasp OL) Don’t Matter.
Not long before we shuffle off though….
A very clever piece of magic as an answer, thank you.
I expect, therefore, that my take is wrong.
Probably due to old age, ingrained white colonial entitlement, social isolation, not watching TV, not reading the correct newspapers, daring to think for myself. Add in taking off my hat in church and other buildings, walking on the outside of the pavement, opening doors for people and not using the F word much.
Seems about accurate.
I expect, therefore, that my take is wrong.
Probably due to old age, ingrained white colonial entitlement, social isolation, not watching TV, not reading the correct newspapers, daring to think for myself. Add in taking off my hat in church and other buildings, walking on the outside of the pavement, opening doors for people and not using the F word much.
Seems about accurate.
A very clever piece of magic as an answer, thank you.
I expect, therefore, that my take is wrong.
Probably due to old age, ingrained white colonial entitlement, social isolation, not watching TV, not reading the correct newspapers, daring to think for myself. Add in taking off my hat in church and other buildings, walking on the outside of the pavement, opening doors for people and not using the F word much.
Seems about accurate.
I expect, therefore, that my take is wrong.
Probably due to old age, ingrained white colonial entitlement, social isolation, not watching TV, not reading the correct newspapers, daring to think for myself. Add in taking off my hat in church and other buildings, walking on the outside of the pavement, opening doors for people and not using the F word much.
Seems about accurate.
It seems your ‘take’ - and mine - is indeed wrong. One simply cannot hold an opinion contrary to the zeitgeist. That makes us ‘gammons’, apparently.
While I’m on the subject, how is it that the phrase ‘male, pale and stale’ has entered mainstream language, despite being sexist, racist and ageist?
Last edited by snapper41; 30th Aug 2022 at 17:45.
Well done both, you're playing the victim fantastically.
Your views aren't "wrong". They're simply not of this era. The world changes, endlessly moaning about that on the internet is actually the only thing you have in common with the generation you seem to dislike so much...
Your views aren't "wrong". They're simply not of this era. The world changes, endlessly moaning about that on the internet is actually the only thing you have in common with the generation you seem to dislike so much...
Well done both, you're playing the victim fantastically.
Your views aren't "wrong". They're simply not of this era. The world changes, endlessly moaning about that on the internet is actually the only thing you have in common with the generation you seem to dislike so much...
Your views aren't "wrong". They're simply not of this era. The world changes, endlessly moaning about that on the internet is actually the only thing you have in common with the generation you seem to dislike so much...
Well done both, you're playing the victim fantastically.
Your views aren't "wrong". They're simply not of this era. The world changes, endlessly moaning about that on the internet is actually the only thing you have in common with the generation you seem to dislike so much...
Your views aren't "wrong". They're simply not of this era. The world changes, endlessly moaning about that on the internet is actually the only thing you have in common with the generation you seem to dislike so much...
Well done both, you're playing the victim fantastically.
Your views aren't "wrong". They're simply not of this era. The world changes, endlessly moaning about that on the internet is actually the only thing you have in common with the generation you seem to dislike so much...
Your views aren't "wrong". They're simply not of this era. The world changes, endlessly moaning about that on the internet is actually the only thing you have in common with the generation you seem to dislike so much...