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Platinum Jubilee Fly Past

Old 3rd Jun 2022, 14:53
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They seemed, from that video, to be a bit to the right of The Mall. But then what is the planned alignment?
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 14:58
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Are you suggesting they didn't overfly the Palace, or that they approached from the wrong direction ?
Dave, I am suggesting that as you sit at Buckingham Palace and look down the Mall towards Admiralty Arch all of the aircraft appear from slightly left of centre. This would indicate that the IP or previous turn point is not perfectly inline with the Mall.
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 16:14
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When Linton flew an 80 over RIAT the formation was 21 plus airborne spares.

When we did E II R over Portsmouth, can’t recall the actual number in the formation but it was mid 30s, quite exciting down the back end (wasn’t it Del Boy!).
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 16:27
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Originally Posted by Dominator2 View Post
Dave, I am suggesting that as you sit at Buckingham Palace and look down the Mall towards Admiralty Arch all of the aircraft appear from slightly left of centre. This would indicate that the IP or previous turn point is not perfectly inline with the Mall.
My take on it is that the formation flew parallel to, but very slightly north of, the Mall and overflew the wing of the Palace closest to Constitution Hill.

If you look at the two Voyagers' tracks on FR24, from Colchester onwards the inbound track was 236°T to match the orientation of the Mall, so I don't see any evidence of a 3° divergence.
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 16:34
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Been racking what’s left of my brains about the Linton EIIR. I think we took 36 airframes, 33 flyers of which 3 were airborne spares plus 3 ground spares.
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 16:42
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Been racking what’s left of my brains about the Linton EIIR. I think we took 36 airframes, 33 flyers of which 3 were airborne spares plus 3 ground spares.
Almost: E = 10. II = 10, R = 11. So 31 in the actual formation
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 17:01
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I bet punkieyes doesn't" get much" with that sort of remark about our forces. I flew a Vulcan on a couple of Birthday Flypasts and when she was flown around the country on "the Last Flight" my wife insisted that we should position ourselves to see it go by! It didn't...it was off route by a mile or so to possibly acknowledge friends in a nearby village. Am I too late to whinge about it?
My immediate thought is "No, you're not too late". I think that you are entitled to go on a destructive, mindless rampage, demand the removal of the word Vulcan from any street sign, ask for an apology from ancestors of A V Roe, and mess up people's way of life in an extremely selfish way. Oh, and there must be financial compensation, surely?

Or is that only certain people who do that?
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 17:21
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Originally Posted by charliegolf View Post
Even that's not as it used to be.

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Another view is that it’s (nostalgia) definitely a thing of the past…

Poor commentary? You betcha…GB News clip congratulated the red arrows in their F35s….

not that I give a damn about such apathy.

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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 18:35
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Originally Posted by Dominator2 View Post
DaveReidUK

Dave, I am suggesting that as you sit at Buckingham Palace and look down the Mall towards Admiralty Arch all of the aircraft appear from slightly left of centre. This would indicate that the IP or previous turn point is not perfectly inline with the Mall.
It's a deliberate offset to give all those on the Balcony a perfect view.
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 18:42
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Originally Posted by Pozidrive View Post
It's a deliberate offset to give all those on the Balcony a perfect view.
Ah, right. Would that be the royals on the LHS of the balcony, those on the RHS, or HM in the middle ?
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 20:26
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Having done a couple (many years ago!) I thought that this was pretty good! Timeing good, tracking good and formation pretty good! Well done everyone involved - and I mean everyone!

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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 21:03
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Watched GB News clip on the fly past (yea, yea, I know) and was somewhat shocked to hear the presented chappy say:

”……here are the red arrows in the F35s” as a couple of 4 engined heavies blotted out the sun.
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 22:31
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Originally Posted by oldmansquipper View Post
Watched GB News clip on the fly past (yea, yea, I know) and was somewhat shocked to hear the presented chappy say:

”……here are the red arrows in the F35s” as a couple of 4 engined heavies blotted out the sun.
Seriously, anyone watching that channel has no taste in watching high definition TV (405 Lines was clearer that the picture) and everything said by the people on that channel is as bent as a nine bob note. As you have just mentioned. You believe the rest of the rubbish said on that Russian sponsored channel?
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 22:32
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Originally Posted by Bill Macgillivray View Post
Having done a couple (many years ago!) I thought that this was pretty good! Timeing good, tracking good and formation pretty good! Well done everyone involved - and I mean everyone!

Bill
Concur Bill, the 70 formation had a bit of bumpy air coming in but adjusted to it.
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 02:43
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Lay in bed and watched the entire broadcast, always find the Brit pageantry a class act. Well done all, the entire gamut, not just the RAF. Question tho, why the Reds with speed brake extended through out?
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Question tho, why the Reds with speed brake extended through out?
Higher thrust so more bleed air to pressurise the smoke system giving stronger, more consistent trail?
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 06:51
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Arrows airbrake use: isn't it to push up the RPM to improve throttle response?
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 06:51
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Originally Posted by Megaton View Post
Higher thrust so more bleed air to pressurise the smoke system giving stronger, more consistent trail?
Or higher drag so higher thrust for same IAS, which would put the engine rpm into a more responsive range so more precise forward movement. Higher drag would also help with quicker rearward movement.
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 07:44
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Originally Posted by Top West 50 View Post
Because nostalgia is all that's left.
It's just not the same any more
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 11:27
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Originally Posted by megan View Post
Question tho, why the Reds with speed brake extended through out?
One of the friends I was with on Putney Bridge asked a question in the pub afterwards; "why did the fighters have their wheels down?" Well I hadn't noticed that, when questioned he amended it to "front wheels". Eh? Another friend produced his camera and we had a look. Ahhhhhhh! It was the the Typhoons which passed to the west of us, their right hand canards were visible underneath the nose!
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