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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 08:28
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Originally Posted by Jackonicko
The failure to issue actual maps showing where and when different elements were going to disperse
That wasn’t a failure,

That was a security measure, I once worked with a person who was involved in the XR “shut the airports” drone debacle. (He was an XR Lieutenant, Yes, they give themselves military ranks)

it was a well planned drone terrorist attack, foiled by intelligence.

XR or Insulate Britain or Stop Oil would have gone for the flypast.

They may have done so anyway, have you not noticed all the GPS Jamming going on?

There’s more than a few animal rights activists trying to disrupt the jubilee.
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Originally Posted by rcsa
Seriously, chaps - HE was sitting in a windowless room, with a list of aircraft provided by the RAF and filtered by a producer, with monitors showing five or six different camera angles, while a director made independent decisions on which camera view to broadcast, and echelons of aircraft came overhead at 200 knots. He possibly had no idea what the broadcast output was showing at that moment. And he's a TV personality, not ex-aircrew or a spotter. He'd been live for over two hours, on what may well be the biggest show of the year, with a guest in the studio to engage with.

It's probably not as tough as flying an inverted Buccaneer at 20 ft around the Glens, as you gents have all done, but it's not easy; and using this error to slag off the BBC tells more about your own political agenda than it does about HE's ability.
All true no doubt. But the point of a TV commentary is to explain and amplify the pictures we are seeing. If that explanation is wrong, whatever the reason, then it is a cause for legitimate criticism from those who pay for the service.

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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 10:38
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Originally Posted by Timelord
All true no doubt. But the point of a TV commentary is to explain and amplify the pictures we are seeing. If that explanation is wrong, whatever the reason, then it is a cause for legitimate criticism from those who pay for the service.
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"! I'm definitely with Rcsa.

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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 11:06
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Fortunately it was a good day although a bit lumpy over the city.
A good effort by everyone involved from the sharp end to the techies ....... and the 70 formation was a delight.
I'd like to thank particularly the Typhoons for flying straight over White Waltham on departure, as promised.
Quite neat when everyone is relaxing after the sweat of getting it just right for the previous half an hour. Thank you.
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Originally Posted by DaveO70
I noticed (looking at the ADSB feed) that when the fast jets came over the coast one of them turned back / away... I can't fathom why... none seemed to be missing, but then why would an extra one have been sent!
possibly a serviceable airborne spare in case one of the jets goes u/s
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 11:52
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There were 72 aircraft, rather than the advertised 70, over the Palace. Hopefully HM wasn't counting ...
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 12:03
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Originally Posted by BEagle

As it was seen from Wanstead! Totally superb!!
The left Typhoon is clearly too far ahead. Or the other two Typhoon next to it too far behind.
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 12:08
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Originally Posted by wondering
The left Typhoon is clearly too far ahead. Or the other two Typhoon next to it too far behind.
That's because HMTQ writes her 7s with a little downstroke at the beginning. Do check before posting!

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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 12:33
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I thought that the flypast was superb.
As for wondering
The left Typhoon is clearly too far ahead. Or the other two Typhoon next to it too far behind.
. All I can say is "have you ever tried to fly line abreast for a long time?

Might be my imagination but all waves appeared to be angled off about 3 degrees from the North. In its self not too significant, however, it does make a difference in the photographs. Have the planners got the run-in track absolutely correct?
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 12:42
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I think one of the most impressive things about the fly past was how they (everybody involved) achieved those numbers and that standard given how busy we know some fleets are over Central Europe.
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Here is one we did earlier:

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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 13:00
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Dave 070

That will have been the 'Whip'; responsible for advising the pilots:

"Number two, forward 5 feet, Number 7 left 10 feet" etc.

The airborne spares would probably have RTB once the formation pushed from the hold.

(Oh, and just curious, but why does just about EVERY thread on this forum descend into a sub-branch of Aviation History & Nostalgia within 24 hours?)
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 13:05
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Because nostalgia is all that's left.
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 13:11
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Originally Posted by rcsa
It's probably not as tough as flying an inverted Buccaneer at 20 ft around the Glens, as you gents have all done, but it's not easy; and using this error to slag off the BBC tells more about your own political agenda than it does about HE's ability.
No it doesn't. It says something about the quite reasonable expectations people have of the BBC for reliability and accuracy, especially in view of the inordinately high payments made to its "personalities".

I spent much of my professional life with the BBC as a continuity announcer, which sometimes involved officiating at live radio OBs. They're not remotely difficult and I didn't have (or require) producers and directors to assist.
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Originally Posted by Top West 50
Because nostalgia is all that's left.
Even that's not as it used to be.

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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 14:03
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Originally Posted by charliegolf
That's because HMTQ writes her 7s with a little downstroke at the beginning. Do check before posting!

CG
Amazing. Right number, the correct way around, and someone criticises the font. What do you want - Times New Roman?
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Originally Posted by ACW599
No it doesn't. It says something about the quite reasonable expectations people have of the BBC for reliability and accuracy, especially in view of the inordinately high payments made to its "personalities".

I spent much of my professional life with the BBC as a continuity announcer, which sometimes involved officiating at live radio OBs. They're not remotely difficult and I didn't have (or require) producers and directors to assist.
Ahh, so that's you!

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What a rude remark.

I bet punkieyes doesn't" get much" with that sort of remark about our forces. I flew a Vulcan on a couple of Birthday Flypasts and when she was flown around the country on "the Last Flight" my wife insisted that we should position ourselves to see it go by! It didn't...it was off route by a mile or so to possibly acknowledge friends in a nearby village. Am I too late to whinge about it?

Originally Posted by punkieys17
Well I dont get it. Like many we studied the zoomable maps to see a fly past........2 aircraft went past over the route at Chertsey in Surrey. A flock of helicopters then went sounth of the route by some 2 to 3 miles, disappointing the crowd that had gathered on the playing fields directly below the flight path. Given the lack of accuracy one can ony believe Ukraine would be in danger if we sent our flyboys.....
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 14:44
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Originally Posted by Dominator2
Might be my imagination but all waves appeared to be angled off about 3 degrees from the North. In its self not too significant, however, it does make a difference in the photographs. Have the planners got the run-in track absolutely correct?
"3 degrees from the North" ?

Are you suggesting they didn't overfly the Palace, or that they approached from the wrong direction ?
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 14:53
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They seemed, from that video, to be a bit to the right of The Mall. But then what is the planned alignment?
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