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USAF Special Ops Command plans to design, build and fly an amphibious Herc

Old 16th Sep 2021, 12:06
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USAF Special Ops Command plans to design, build and fly an amphibious Herc

https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-w...145490.article





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It's worked before... XC-47C
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It's worked before... XC-47C
Another example, N130Q, still flies on amphibious floats so far as I know - converted in 1976.
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Don't forget the earlier "Hercules On Water " ( HOW) program.
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Drag, of course, is inconsequential. "Ye cannae change the laws of physics, Captain"
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Originally Posted by treadigraph View Post
Another example, N130Q, still flies on amphibious floats so far as I know - converted in 1976.
According to this website it was put back on wheels in 2004. www.airhistory.net/photo/127218/N130Q
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Have they added another door on the c130J Herc?, I ask because that’s on the wrong side and the codes are correct so it’s not a mirror image, is it possibly added because the port crew door would be to short to reach? Though looking closely it’s got a step on the port side too… you learn something every day.


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I expect you would need a door each side to get access to the floats so you can come alongside and moor both portside and starboardside to.
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What a hairbrained idea and more.

Too many ways to insert and exract spec ops folks that require less support and are more mobile and have actually been used in sensitive scenarios.

Must be same folks that planned Kabul, huh?

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Might be useful for urgent deep ocean resupply, picking up injured or carrying spec forces to join a carrier etc? I wonder what it does for fuel burn and range.
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Sea-130...
I'll just get my coat.
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Byrd did it for his Antarctic expedition in the 1930s with a Curtiss-Wright T-32

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Does this come under the category of a solution in search of a problem?
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Might be just easier to buy the Sunderland off Kermit Weeks.

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What wave height could it cope with? Is this something for open ocean scenarios?
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Mari used Herc.

Are they serious?

Assuming they are fitting floats, the resultant drag will limit payload range and speed considerably.

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Is this something for open ocean scenarios?
Absolutely not. Only seaplanes with hulls specifically designed for ocean swells would go anywhere near such conditions - and they are few and far between.

The ShinMaywa is designed to operate in conditions up to sea state 5 - conditions in the North Atlantic and Pacific exceed sea state 6 over 20% of the time in winter.

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA487947.pdf
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Checks calendar to verify it's not April 1...
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Perhaps they've just floated the idea...................
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