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NutLoose 16th Sep 2021 11:06

USAF Special Ops Command plans to design, build and fly an amphibious Herc
 
https://www.flightglobal.com/fixed-w...145490.article


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All in 17 months... Ooooooh.. :)

Fargo Boyle 16th Sep 2021 14:53

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....87729af694.jpg
It's worked before... XC-47C

treadigraph 16th Sep 2021 15:54


Originally Posted by Fargo Boyle (Post 11112153)
It's worked before... XC-47C

Another example, N130Q, still flies on amphibious floats so far as I know - converted in 1976.

Haraka 16th Sep 2021 16:52

Don't forget the earlier "Hercules On Water " ( HOW) program.

Herod 16th Sep 2021 20:39

Drag, of course, is inconsequential. "Ye cannae change the laws of physics, Captain"

Bksmithca 16th Sep 2021 21:11


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 11112171)
Another example, N130Q, still flies on amphibious floats so far as I know - converted in 1976.

According to this website it was put back on wheels in 2004. www.airhistory.net/photo/127218/N130Q

NutLoose 16th Sep 2021 21:21

Have they added another door on the c130J Herc?, I ask because that’s on the wrong side and the codes are correct so it’s not a mirror image, is it possibly added because the port crew door would be to short to reach? Though looking closely it’s got a step on the port side too… you learn something every day.


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Ninthace 16th Sep 2021 21:46

I expect you would need a door each side to get access to the floats so you can come alongside and moor both portside and starboardside to.

gums 17th Sep 2021 00:22

Salute!

TGBSM!

What a hairbrained idea and more.

Too many ways to insert and exract spec ops folks that require less support and are more mobile and have actually been used in sensitive scenarios.

Must be same folks that planned Kabul, huh?

Gums sends..

NutLoose 17th Sep 2021 00:42

Might be useful for urgent deep ocean resupply, picking up injured or carrying spec forces to join a carrier etc? I wonder what it does for fuel burn and range.

army_av8r 17th Sep 2021 01:25

Sea-130...
I'll just get my coat.

Bill Harris 17th Sep 2021 02:25

Byrd did it for his Antarctic expedition in the 1930s with a Curtiss-Wright T-32
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d0ce7ddaf2.jpg

Ninthace 17th Sep 2021 08:57

Does this come under the category of a solution in search of a problem?

Anilv 17th Sep 2021 09:25

Might be just easier to buy the Sunderland off Kermit Weeks.

Anilv

treadigraph 17th Sep 2021 09:54

Anilv, I believe the Coulson Martin Mars are both for sale!

Less Hair 17th Sep 2021 10:53

What wave height could it cope with? Is this something for open ocean scenarios?

Gbflyer 17th Sep 2021 17:59

Mari used Herc.
 
Are they serious?

Assuming they are fitting floats, the resultant drag will limit payload range and speed considerably.


ORAC 17th Sep 2021 18:38


Is this something for open ocean scenarios?
Absolutely not. Only seaplanes with hulls specifically designed for ocean swells would go anywhere near such conditions - and they are few and far between.

The ShinMaywa is designed to operate in conditions up to sea state 5 - conditions in the North Atlantic and Pacific exceed sea state 6 over 20% of the time in winter.

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA487947.pdf

Tango and Cash 17th Sep 2021 18:57

Checks calendar to verify it's not April 1...

dadruid 18th Sep 2021 02:07

Perhaps they've just floated the idea...................


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