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Should have kept Lyneham Open

Old 25th Jul 2021, 09:29
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An interesting summary, do we know what the saving are /were in the disposal of the other 2 units?
My guess is that it does not meet the 200M.
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 18:12
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Tansor Voyager is currently at EGQS, but didn't leave today for BZN as it has done on it previous two visits this month.
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Old 26th Jul 2021, 08:54
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Originally Posted by Stratnumberone View Post
If only someone had told them that putting all the AT assets into a station with only one runway could cause problems. We are all culpable for not doing so.
I did, too.
On a GAPAN visit to Brize at the station commanderís briefing, I asked the question :
So, you have all the transport and tanker assets of the RAF at Brize, with just one runway. Now, what happens if a terrorist or three creep on to said runway and blow holes in it! Rendering it unuseable ?

We have a plan said SC , next question please !
I do hope the plan was/is cunning !
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Old 26th Jul 2021, 12:28
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Just use Fairford when Brive is inactive, itís large enough and under utilised!
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Old 27th Jul 2021, 18:58
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The cost of the move (Project Hercules) was considerably south of £200M, a little adrift from your figure.
RLE: that was for phase 1, first 2 years only.

Relocating all the C130s to Brize was also not inexpensive...
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Old 27th Jul 2021, 20:12
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Stewyb - Not if most of your assets are sat on the pan at Brize with a closed runway!
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 08:09
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C130's been operating out of Kidlington (Oxford Kidlington) are the RAF going to start dispersing the fleet to get over the runway & logistics problems ?.
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 09:16
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Pinched from fightercontrol.co.uk:

Current Operating positions:
Updated 27/07/21

RAF Mildenhall:
Voyager ZZ331

Birmingham Airport
Voyager ZZ337

Gatwick Airport
Voyager ZZ333

Stansted Airport
Voyager ZZ335 currently on its way to RAF Akotiri.

RAF Fairford
C-130J ZH866
C-17A ZZ178
A-400M ZM412

Oxford Aiport
C-130J ZH872

PS Another Herc was operating from Little Rissington but I believe this is now the one operating from Fairford.
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 09:20
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Forgot to add - current NOTAM suggests runway won't be restored to its full operational length until.....22nd August. Cue more frothing!
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 12:51
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So, all dispersed, all operating, early use of CAS dispersal exercise, what's the problem?
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 13:07
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Does`nt count,pr00ne,because they`re not `fast jets`.....
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 13:11
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sycamore,

Again, what's the problem?
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 13:17
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Originally Posted by stewyb View Post
Just use Fairford when Brive is inactive, itís large enough and under utilised!
What's 485 miles between friends......

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Old 28th Jul 2021, 13:24
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Originally Posted by zetec2 View Post
C130's been operating out of Kidlington (Oxford Kidlington) are the RAF going to start dispersing the fleet to get over the runway & logistics problems ?.
If they're dropping meat bombs at Weston, Kindlington might make a lot of sense...
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 13:26
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The RAF patently ARE dispersing the fleet to get over runway problems!

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Old 28th Jul 2021, 14:49
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So, all dispersed, all operating, early use of CAS dispersal exercise, what's the problem?
pr00ne: the list was of 8 aircraft, there will be a few more at Brize not able to operate.

íWhatís the problem?í Well, the entire AT fleet is at a base which has only a single runway which couldnít cope with a short spell of hot weather. Such hot spells are likely to be more common in the future thanks to the dreaded climate change. That some of the aircraft had to divert and are now operating out of nearby civil airports (who must be loving the fuel & parking charges) doesnít mitigate the effect on operations. Sounds like a problem to me.
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 15:06
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This reads like a script for 'Yes Minister'. You can just see Sir Humphrey extolling the virtues and cost-savings of putting all the aeroplanes on one base, Jim Hacker doing his best to make sense of it all when Bernard takes a phone call and relays the message to the minister. "Are you telling me Bernard, that none of those aircraft can take off, because the runway has melted?" "Yes, minister." (Cue the credits/end music).
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 18:45
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Originally Posted by Ken Scott View Post
the list was of 8 aircraft, there will be a few more at Brize not able to operate.
Do you know that for a fact or did you just make it up? If you made it up, why?
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That some of the aircraft had to divert and are now operating out of nearby civil airports doesnít mitigate the effect on operations. Sounds like a problem to me.
Same question.
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 19:30
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I used to be stationed at Brize, I know for a fact there are more than 8 ac based there...
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Old 28th Jul 2021, 19:56
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Originally Posted by Ken Scott View Post
I used to be stationed at Brize, I know for a fact there are more than 8 ac based there...
But you know nothing about the current situation. So you made it up. Why?
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