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KPax 20th Jul 2021 20:18

Should have kept Lyneham Open
 
https://www.forces.net/news/raf-briz...closed-repairs
Brize Closed as runway appears to have melted, 1 Voyager at Mildenhall.

NutLoose 20th Jul 2021 21:03

1 of the White Tails and 1 Voyager at EGNX


Thaihawk 20th Jul 2021 23:54

ZH871 Hercules C.4 calling RRR5711 diverted to Northolt, arriving there at 22:33 on the 19th from Nice. As of the evening of the 20th, this C-130 remains at Northolt.

RAFEngO74to09 21st Jul 2021 01:48

Wrong type of warm weather for the tar - a bit like British Rail "wrong type of snow" in 1991 !

TBM-Legend 21st Jul 2021 04:01


Originally Posted by KPax (Post 11082143)
https://www.forces.net/news/raf-briz...closed-repairs
Brize Closed as runway appears to have melted, 1 Voyager at Mildenhall.


Ever heard of concrete? Works wonders in hot and cold climes....

esscee 21st Jul 2021 06:49

Maybe use Fairford as happened in 1974 and again since then.

Red Line Entry 21st Jul 2021 07:30

Lyneham is of course still open, although a Voyager landing there might have given a bit of a shock to the REME trainees busy practising recovering tanks on the runway!

chopper2004 21st Jul 2021 08:46


Originally Posted by KPax (Post 11082143)
https://www.forces.net/news/raf-briz...closed-repairs
Brize Closed as runway appears to have melted, 1 Voyager at Mildenhall.

Yep as I was there yesterday


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5055a3e48.jpeg

cheers

ACW342 21st Jul 2021 10:14

  • Brize Norton, Home of the RAF Strategic Airlift Fleet
  • Brize Norton, Home of the RAF Tactical Airlift Fleet
  • Brize Norton, Home of the RAF Air to Air Refuelling Fleet
  • Brize Norton,1 single runway.

NutLoose 21st Jul 2021 11:17

A stupid situation isn't it... and the fact they are having to shove them into civilian airports just makes the whole of it even more farcical, to not have the capability to move the fleet elsewhere is ludicrous. Take out the Brize runway and they are screwed.

Stratnumberone 21st Jul 2021 11:42

If only someone had told them that putting all the AT assets into a station with only one runway could cause problems. We are all culpable for not doing so.

Runaway Gun 21st Jul 2021 11:49

History Never Repeats
 
I vaguely recall a couple of Hercs visiting Brize to 'dry run' the concept, just before the closure of Lyneham. Of course, one landed Gear Up on the runway, and stopped :)

Base Commander bragged that the runway was still used, as a C-17 flew off the remaining length. Where to? To Lyneham, to fill up with fuel and cargo before continuing onwards.

pasta 21st Jul 2021 11:59

On the positive side, handy to know that a request to transit the Brize zone is unlikely to be refused at the moment...

Out Of Trim 21st Jul 2021 12:04


Originally Posted by Stratnumberone (Post 11082506)
If only someone had told them that putting all the AT assets into a station with only one runway could cause problems. We are all culpable for not doing so.

It wasn’t too difficult to foresee! I'm sure the issue was discussed when RAFLyneham was withdrawn from use.I don’t really see the point. Seeing as Lyneham is still an MOD establishment, just occupied by the Army now. So what was actually saved. An embarrassingly strange decision that creates operational risks and lack of flexibility.

dead_pan 21st Jul 2021 12:14


Originally Posted by pasta (Post 11082517)
On the positive side, handy to know that a request to transit the Brize zone is unlikely to be refused at the moment...

Yup, seems like a few have cottoned on to this and are making use of the short-cut.

I know its hot but its been hotter over the past few years, so why this problem now? Didn't they do some work to the runway recently?

OmegaV6 21st Jul 2021 14:11

Anyone trying to land at Lyneham now is in for a rude awakening !! Runway has many "buildings" on it, and the grass to the North and West of the runway has all been replaced by solar panels !!

Shackman 21st Jul 2021 14:13

Apart from the diverted aircraft,how many others are actually stuck at Brize until the runway reopens?

Ken Scott 21st Jul 2021 14:28



If only someone had told them that putting all the AT assets into a station with only one runway could cause problems. We are all culpable for not doing so.
I believe quite a few people at Lyneham did mention it including the local Wiltshire MP. I was rather severely told off by the then Stn Cdr for not being an ‘advocate of the move’ to Brize. As a Gp Capt he was required to be one although he told a marginally different tale at his dining-out night.

The birds are coming home to roost now though.

bobward 21st Jul 2021 15:13

Apologies for the slight thread drift here.
In todays Daily Telegraph is a report on a statement by ACM Sir Mike Wigston that the RAF needs to 'relearn skills not practiced for 30 years'. A new series of exercises called Exercise Agile Stance will see fighter jets dispersed to civilian airfields or even motorways to make them harder for the Red Forces to destroy. I can't wait to see them at Norwich, although don't come on Mondays as they don't allow circuit training (grass cutting in progress!)

fairflyer 21st Jul 2021 15:23


Originally Posted by Stratnumberone (Post 11082506)
If only someone had told them that putting all the AT assets into a station with only one runway could cause problems. We are all culpable for not doing so.

Yup, they could have had two molten runways instead of one! Can't beat concrete eh?


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