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Afghanistan 2021 Onwards

Old 18th Oct 2021, 14:02
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Skirdlov. Is your name Rory by any chance?
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Old 18th Oct 2021, 15:05
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Salute!

to Nuts and others about trying to help the 'stan.....

check out this op ed and it will explain a lot. Sure, some political jabs that could have been omitted, but the basics are there. It is one big reason an analogy with the Saigon evacuation does not compute. And my squad covered the evac in 1975, and I worked with the VNAF for three years, understood their culture and such.
The ''stan has never existed as a country except western folks drew some lines on a map. I also had two Afghan students when an instructor at Air University. Oh yeah, the first Pakistan and Israeli folks to check out in the Viper. Just some background...

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/202...el-greenfield/

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Old 18th Oct 2021, 15:32
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I for one would be more comfortable if a proviso was in place that women were allowed to work and get an education etc, before funding was available to them and it being in increments throughout the year with checks being carried out that these things were being adhered too. That way some progress might happen.

Pie in the sky I know, but better than nothing.

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Old 20th Oct 2021, 16:13
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Old 20th Oct 2021, 17:23
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Not sure who the "we" or the "they" are.....

Mao had a good explanation of the guerrilla tactics in his Little Red Book, and Uncle Ho's folks did a good job versus the French about 6 years later. Another five years go by, and this dude in Cuba pulls off a coup.

As the op ed piece I posted earlier points out, the 'stan is an arbitrary group of lines on a map. I must admit that most humans within those lines have much in common as far as physical appearance and genetic attributes, but about the only unifying thing there is a certain religion, and even it has two strong different sects.

There is no "common" foe nor desire to form a union as we saw here in the colonies except one...
The villages and families just want to be left alone.

But unlike we colonists, mostly from Europe, the Taliban would wish to impose a heinous social existence on all of them in the name of he who cannot be mentioned. One of our fundamental tennants was that the government or anyone else should not force religious practices upon the whole of the populace. After all, many of us migrated here to escape religious persecution. So no establishment of a national religion has been a biggie in the U.S. since 1787.

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Old 21st Oct 2021, 08:26
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Mainly correct Gums - bu the idea that people can hold different views to you and not be attacked, imprisoned, driven out or just abused is under attack even in the "liberal" west
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Not sure 102 is a lot to brag about, but every life saved is worthwhile.

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Old 26th Oct 2021, 09:16
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Politico: (Tuesday 26th). Presumably to be covered on BBC Parliament or elsewhere.

AFGHANISTAN FALLOUT: Defense Secretary Ben Wallace and head of the Armed Forces Nick Carter appear together at Tobias Ellwood’s Commons defense committee this afternoon, which is currently holding an inquiry into the U.K.’s withdrawal from Afghanistan. They’re up for two hours from 2.30 p.m.

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Old 26th Oct 2021, 09:47
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Not sure 102 is a lot to brag about, but every life saved is worthwhile.
Indeed, about a third of the capacity of a single Voyager.
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 11:42
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It looks like Afghanistan is heading for a major famine this winter. Some families have already been reduced to selling their children to get enough money to live.
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Old 26th Oct 2021, 13:55
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Selling children? Seriously?! Is that genuine?

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Old 26th Oct 2021, 14:35
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/160896...fghan-taliban/

https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/22...-into-marriage

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Defence Committee coverage just started on Sky News.

twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1gqxvleglkpGB?t=14m54s

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Old 27th Oct 2021, 09:13
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There is no shortage of books about Afghanistan and its history. One of the most insightful is William Dalrymple's "The Return of a King". To say that history repeats itself is an understatement.
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Old 27th Oct 2021, 18:28
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Looks like a lawyer has got out almost as many as the government….

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Old 31st Oct 2021, 13:04
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Jeez, words fail me

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