Lt Col jailed for fraud.
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We had an NCO at RAE Bedford done for the same thing. He claimed in mitigation that the rules were so complicated that he thought he was ok to claim when he was separated from his wife because the kids were still at the same school as when living together and he would have needed to move the kids, possibly for a short time if things did not work out. I don't suppose ignorance of the rules would work well for such a senior officer. It is fair to say at some stations different command accountants would take a different view of the rules. Just as the previous we had a situation where the rule for home to duty said "direct" some understood that to mean the shortest route others the most convenient the OED says direct means simplest
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TR-I thought the idea of command accounts was just that-to command! There should be no doubt as to the rules and any issue should be sorted at that level. HTD is a good example-I kept a copy of a CA letter that said you could vary the distance and route for security reasons.
As for BSA/CEA I suspect a lot of claimants have pushed the boundaries over the years.
TR-I thought the idea of command accounts was just that-to command! There should be no doubt as to the rules and any issue should be sorted at that level. HTD is a good example-I kept a copy of a CA letter that said you could vary the distance and route for security reasons.
As for BSA/CEA I suspect a lot of claimants have pushed the boundaries over the years.
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Not excusing what is clearly fraud, but there seem to be too many of these CEA/fraudulent claiming cases going to court martial with officers you wouldn't expect ending up doing civilian jail time. Makes me think there are two issues - (1) the system is letting too many false claims through without proper checks and balances, ie it's too easy to perpetuate this crime and (2) the crime isn't seen as serious enough by those convicted - at the time they probably think "oh well, my wife could be living with me, it doesn't hurt anyone if she's spending more time away than technically she should". I also think there has been a policy shift to throw the book. I expect had it been MPs caught doing this, there wouldn't have been the same result.
Reading this thread reminds me I'm always amazed at how every single thread on pprune miltiary only takes a few posts on the subject before it becomes "back in Swinderby in '79"!
Reading this thread reminds me I'm always amazed at how every single thread on pprune miltiary only takes a few posts on the subject before it becomes "back in Swinderby in '79"!
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I wasn't there in 79
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No personal attack meant, if I used your words it was only because I had most recently read them so I apologise if it came across wrong. It's the same on any post on this sub-forum.
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The lesson I learned from Betty Windsor's shooting club was it doesn't matter if it's 1 penny or a million pounds, the charge will still be same if you fiddle a claim. That has always stuck with me, especially in dealing with those who didn't learn the lesson. The comment in the Daily Fail article about the hapless Lt Col offering to pay back all the money is hilarious - "you caught me, but I'll pay you back" is a great defence ploy.
The Court took the correct decision, imo, and the sentencing was appropriate. Quite unbelievable what occurred.
The intention was clear and no excuses.
The intention was clear and no excuses.
The regulations must be quite well written and crystal clear to snag so many people and get them prison time?!
Quite rare to see MOD regulations written to such a high standard...
Quite rare to see MOD regulations written to such a high standard...
He is only a Lt Col [or was]. Hardly Boys' Club material.
Even rural Golf Club secretary rates higher.
Even rural Golf Club secretary rates higher.
Perhaps. You have always been Mister. So am I (and have been for some time now). So happy my military pension has now been index linked. I can book a SAGA holiday now as well.
And we won the Cold War, much of which we spent in places where the next siren might mean Armageddon.
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The lesson I learned from Betty Windsor's shooting club was it doesn't matter if it's 1 penny or a million pounds, the charge will still be same if you fiddle a claim. That has always stuck with me, especially in dealing with those who didn't learn the lesson. The comment in the Daily Fail article about the hapless Lt Col offering to pay back all the money is hilarious - "you caught me, but I'll pay you back" is a great defence ploy.
Best status was being attached to the RAF ....... never called anyone sir below Gp Capt, and that not for ever, all the fun, all the perks, all the privileges, no nasty itchy uniforms except on exercises, not much CS gas, not many bangs, good pay, super pension, great memories, good friends.
And we won the Cold War, much of which we spent in places where the next siren might mean Armageddon.
Enjoy the holiday...
And we won the Cold War, much of which we spent in places where the next siren might mean Armageddon.
Enjoy the holiday...