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Honeywell Admits Sending F-35, F-22 Part Drawings To China

Old 4th May 2021, 17:06
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Honeywell Admits Sending F-35, F-22 Part Drawings To China

Words fail me

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-more-to-china

The matter at hand had to do with Honeywell's alleged unauthorized export of dozens of technical drawings relating to components of various aircraft, missiles, and tanks, including the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the F-22 Raptor stealth fighter, the B-1B bomber, the Tomahawk cruise missile, and the M1A1 Abrams, to multiple countries, including China. American officials contend that some of the disclosures harmed national security, something that Honeywell denies.
All of these alleged exports had to do with drawings that "contained engineering prints showing layouts, dimensions, and geometries for manufacturing castings and finished parts for multiple aircraft, military electronics, and gas turbine engines" used on various aircraft and ground vehicles. The documents were shared via DEXcenter, "a file exchange platform" that the Honeywell employees in question typically use to "transfer drawings to suppliers."

That document includes the following list of impacted platforms, with a caveat that this was only some of the examples, rather than a full accounting:
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Honeywell should have been fined billions and some heads should roll.
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Old 4th May 2021, 19:45
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How can this happen?
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I find it [almost] unbelievable, but IT does present great opportunities for such culpable stupidity. I look forward to the legal proceedings..
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Possibly deliberate, it is much more useful to have the potential opponents get all exited about stealing and replicating your stuff than to have them actually innovate in some unpredictable fashion.
Iirc, the Navy take was 'a stern chase is a long one'.
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Old 5th May 2021, 07:28
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With a bit of luck they'll have included the full spec for ALICE
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Presumably the Purchasing Department at Honeywell just sent the drawings out willy-nilly to potential suppliers (regardless of nationality) in their never-ending quest for the cheapest quote - 'never mind the quality, feel the width...'
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A typical State Department penalty is that the offender is responsible for redesigning and improving the exposed sensitive technology within a short period to mitigate the breach. Great for technology roadmaps but very expensive for the miscreant.
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ALICE, ALICE, who the f*** is ALICE?
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Old 5th May 2021, 16:08
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Maybe he is referring to this ?

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us...stem-alis.html
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Old 5th May 2021, 16:26
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All part of a cunning plan to bankrupt china by getting to build copies of the F35.
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Originally Posted by Lordflasheart View Post
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Maybe he is referring to this ?

https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us...stem-alis.html
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Indeed - it would put the PLA back a decade.................
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ALICE - if I am correct - All-purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment

the US Army's equivalent of those huge British Bergen rucksacks.

Presumably uncomfortable, in no way ergonomic, and designed by people who never had to use it... and therefore of great benefit to Chinese soldiers!

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With a bit of luck they'll have included the full spec for ALIS
Yet again, we need a "Like" button!!! To be fair, ALIS is LM. But your point is a good one all the same!
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ALIS? Let them use LITS
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Originally Posted by keith williams View Post
All part of a cunning plan to bankrupt china by getting to build copies of the F35.
Well, spending them to death did work in defeating the Rooskis...
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Well, spending them to death did work in defeating the Rooskis...
That is one theory , there are others .
I predicted the collapse of the Soviets in 1977 during a rather heated drinking session in the Red Dragon lounge at Aberdeen university Just before the Clash played there on the White Riot tour .The bar that night was infested with trots and ballet dancers . We were only there for the cheap beer .
A simpler time before smart phones made everyone stupid .
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