Red Arrows are safe after Ministry of Defence plans to retire entire fleet of 76 Hawk

[chevvron]

Maybe the plan is for BAe to build the M-345 under licence as a Hawk replacement?
Just asking; not a lot else going on at Warton at the moment is there?

[KPax]

I am sure a visit to the Shropshire rotary base will find plenty of Hawks and Tranche 1 Typhoons.

[mmitch]

Perhaps the Reds could become pat of an enlarged BBMF? They would need a bigger hangar though.....
mmitch.

[test1234]

Originally Posted by KPax

I am sure a visit to the Shropshire rotary base will find plenty of Hawks and Tranche 1 Typhoons.

I’m sure getting some of the Hawks flying wouldn’t be too difficult, but the Tr 1s? No chance. They’re in various states of hardware/software and you just couldn’t find the manpower and spares to bring them back to a flying state.... without a heap of cash too. It’ll be sad to see them scrapped, but that is the ONLY option for them.

[Union Jack]

Then there were regrettably only 75 as a result of Hawk incident near Culdrose

Jack

[XR219]

Meanwhile, six years ago, the Indian Air Force managed to find the funds to buy twenty new Hawk 132s for their aerobatic team...

[THJC]

I am pretty sure the Reds will be in the T1 until the Aeralis comes along. They do have plenty of spares now!

[Brewers Droop]

This thread is really disappointing. Usually by now someone has recommended bringing back the gnat, sopwith camel, shackleton.

[NutLoose]

Shame we got rid of the Hunter......

[Stu666]

Originally Posted by test1234

I understand that the replacement airframe for the Reds has already been made, but not yet announced; this would tie in with the announcement that ALL Hawk T1s will be gone by 2025.

Give us a clue...my money's on them cutting the number of pilots down to 6 and ordering more Texans.

[sangiovese.]

Originally Posted by Stu666

Give us a clue...my money's on them cutting the number of pilots down to 6 and ordering more Texans.

Prefer a Lion Bar over a Texan tbh

[NutLoose]

Originally Posted by test1234

I understand that the replacement airframe for the Reds has already been made, but not yet announced; this would tie in with the announcement that ALL Hawk T1s will be gone by 2025.

I was going to mention the red scooters but fuel cost savings and all that.

[treadigraph]

Brilliant Nutty, if you squint you really can't tell the difference...

[Davef68]

Originally Posted by NIREP reader

Does this include the Boscombe Down based aircraft, RAFCAM/ETPS?

All going/gone and replaced by PC21s

[cubemaster]

Are those Red Barrows flown by ground crew, or are they what the pilots use when the cloudbase is too low?

[Lomon]

Originally Posted by Mil-26Man

I thought one of the main points of the Red Arrows was to showcase British industry to the world and to drum up exports. Not sure what message it sends flying an aircraft that the RAF has binned.

What message does it send that our display team are flying 40 year old obsolete aeroplanes? Maybe if the Reds were operating the T2 or the 200 it would promote foreign sales and showcase British Industry.

[Valiantone]

Better hurry up as the only Hawks currently in production are for Qatar and thats less than 10.

[oxenos]

entire fleet of 76 Hawk T1 trainer aircraft

make that 75.

[chevvron]

What will 100 Sqdn be flying then?

[pr00ne]

Davef68,

Are you sure about that? I thought that the PC-21's were for ETPS, which is a QinetiQ outfit, where as the Centre for Aviation Medicine Hawks are RAF.