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Red Arrows are safe after Ministry of Defence plans to retire entire fleet of 76 Hawk

Old 25th Mar 2021, 09:43
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Maybe the plan is for BAe to build the M-345 under licence as a Hawk replacement?
Just asking; not a lot else going on at Warton at the moment is there?

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Old 25th Mar 2021, 09:51
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I am sure a visit to the Shropshire rotary base will find plenty of Hawks and Tranche 1 Typhoons.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 10:29
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Perhaps the Reds could become pat of an enlarged BBMF? They would need a bigger hangar though.....
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 10:36
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I am sure a visit to the Shropshire rotary base will find plenty of Hawks and Tranche 1 Typhoons.
I’m sure getting some of the Hawks flying wouldn’t be too difficult, but the Tr 1s? No chance. They’re in various states of hardware/software and you just couldn’t find the manpower and spares to bring them back to a flying state.... without a heap of cash too. It’ll be sad to see them scrapped, but that is the ONLY option for them.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 12:38
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Then there were regrettably only 75 as a result of Hawk incident near Culdrose

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Old 25th Mar 2021, 12:41
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Meanwhile, six years ago, the Indian Air Force managed to find the funds to buy twenty new Hawk 132s for their aerobatic team...
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 12:44
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I am pretty sure the Reds will be in the T1 until the Aeralis comes along. They do have plenty of spares now!
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 14:25
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This thread is really disappointing. Usually by now someone has recommended bringing back the gnat, sopwith camel, shackleton.


 
Old 25th Mar 2021, 14:31
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Shame we got rid of the Hunter......

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Old 25th Mar 2021, 15:46
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I understand that the replacement airframe for the Reds has already been made, but not yet announced; this would tie in with the announcement that ALL Hawk T1s will be gone by 2025.
Give us a clue...my money's on them cutting the number of pilots down to 6 and ordering more Texans.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 16:43
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Give us a clue...my money's on them cutting the number of pilots down to 6 and ordering more Texans.
Prefer a Lion Bar over a Texan tbh
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 18:09
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Originally Posted by test1234 View Post
I understand that the replacement airframe for the Reds has already been made, but not yet announced; this would tie in with the announcement that ALL Hawk T1s will be gone by 2025.



I was going to mention the red scooters but fuel cost savings and all that.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 18:48
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Brilliant Nutty, if you squint you really can't tell the difference...
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 19:05
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Originally Posted by NIREP reader View Post
Does this include the Boscombe Down based aircraft, RAFCAM/ETPS?
All going/gone and replaced by PC21s
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 21:09
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Are those Red Barrows flown by ground crew, or are they what the pilots use when the cloudbase is too low?
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 21:43
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Originally Posted by Mil-26Man View Post
I thought one of the main points of the Red Arrows was to showcase British industry to the world and to drum up exports. Not sure what message it sends flying an aircraft that the RAF has binned.
What message does it send that our display team are flying 40 year old obsolete aeroplanes? Maybe if the Reds were operating the T2 or the 200 it would promote foreign sales and showcase British Industry.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 22:11
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Better hurry up as the only Hawks currently in production are for Qatar and thats less than 10.
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Old 25th Mar 2021, 22:31
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entire fleet of 76 Hawk T1 trainer aircraft
make that 75.
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Old 26th Mar 2021, 09:28
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What will 100 Sqdn be flying then?

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Old 26th Mar 2021, 10:02
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Davef68,

Are you sure about that? I thought that the PC-21's were for ETPS, which is a QinetiQ outfit, where as the Centre for Aviation Medicine Hawks are RAF.
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