Red Arrows are safe after Ministry of Defence plans to retire entire fleet of 76 Hawk
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Originally Posted by Mil-26Man
I thought one of the main points of the Red Arrows was to showcase British industry to the world and to drum up exports. Not sure what message it sends flying an aircraft that the RAF has binned.
Not an argument in favour, merely an observation.
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Originally Posted by Capn Bug Smasher
Don't the Blue Angels use bog standard Hornets instead of Super Hornets?
Not an argument in favour, merely an observation.
Not an argument in favour, merely an observation.
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Originally Posted by Boeing Jet
The Reds flew their first 9 ship formation today, look forward to seeing them flying over Lincolnshire for many more years to come!!
Yes, I was here before they were and, yes, I did do 22 years on the much noisier V force.
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Well there will be a few Tranche 1 Typhoons available to replace them in a couple of years.....
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Chances of the Tranche 1 Typhoons going to the Reds........
Which part of retired by 2025, along with the Hawk T.1s did you miss. Still you could always sweep round a few scrappies for the remnants of the Tranche 1 Twins seaters. or the 3 used for GIAs and as for the Tranche 2s. If you Borrow the jet Warton use, you can make a 6 ship.
Anyway I thought the Reds having taken a lot of newer ex TWU airframes on means they have had the replacement wings, fuselage behind the cockpit and triggers broom adaptions
Which part of retired by 2025, along with the Hawk T.1s did you miss. Still you could always sweep round a few scrappies for the remnants of the Tranche 1 Twins seaters. or the 3 used for GIAs and as for the Tranche 2s. If you Borrow the jet Warton use, you can make a 6 ship.
Anyway I thought the Reds having taken a lot of newer ex TWU airframes on means they have had the replacement wings, fuselage behind the cockpit and triggers broom adaptions
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Originally Posted by Boeing Jet
The Reds flew their first 9 ship formation today, look forward to seeing them flying over Lincolnshire for many more years to come!!
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Originally Posted by Out Of Trim
Well, a T1A is not strictly a T1 is it? Then the Reds would still have some aircraft! ( It was just a tongue in cheek comment ). Not serious 🧐!
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Tranche 1s are going for 2 good reasons - lack of capability whilst also being very expensive to operate. If you can’t afford to run them as a front line type, your definitely not going to use them for the Reds. Their fate will be the same as the Tr1 Tubs - the scrap heap! Sad but true.
I understand that the replacement airframe for the Reds has already been made, but not yet announced; this would tie in with the announcement that ALL Hawk T1s will be gone by 2025.
I understand that the replacement airframe for the Reds has already been made, but not yet announced; this would tie in with the announcement that ALL Hawk T1s will be gone by 2025.
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Originally Posted by Capn Bug Smasher
Don't the Blue Angels use bog standard Hornets instead of Super Hornets?
Not an argument in favour, merely an observation.
Not an argument in favour, merely an observation.
The Blues have transitioned to Super Hornets.
Why not give the Reds a dozen to be pensioned off Typhoons and represent the cutting edge and not the blunt side of the sword..?
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Trumpet Trousers
Originally Posted by Trumpet trousers
The Canadian Snowbirds seem to have been doing ok as the sole remaining operator of the Canadair CT-114 Tutor since 2000....
Remember the Snowbirds do not have an industry promotion remit.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
So do you think they will now stand down 736 Naval Air Sqn and stand back up their predecessors FRADU and hand them their Hawks as a Civilian operation?
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
It’s a shame they didn’t bin the Reds at the same time, there might have been an uproar over the cuts in the media then.
The RAF could shrink to the size of the Irish Air Corps, and the Reds would likely still survive...!
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Originally Posted by Trumpet trousers
The Canadian Snowbirds seem to have been doing ok as the sole remaining operator of the Canadair CT-114 Tutor since 2000....
