Group Captains Galore
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Only £100,000 p/a for a Chief Inspector of Police here in our peaceful little Island, with a population of about 110,000. 😎
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Bomber, Fighter, Coastal, Transport, Flying Training, Tech Training, Signals ...
RAF Germany, Far East AF, Near East AF, AF Middle East ...
... and I’m sure I’ve missed one!
RAF Germany, Far East AF, Near East AF, AF Middle East ...
... and I’m sure I’ve missed one!
TTN
Talking of group captains and command HQs, I seem to recall there were 26 group captains at HQ FEAF at Changi when I was in Singapore in 1967.
This thread reminds me of that picture of a dozen managers stood around in high viz, holding clipboards, and watching one polish guy dig up the street.
The number of VSO's is unjustifiable, and has been for years. I remember being at Cranwitz at the height of the Iraq/Afghanistan distractions, and being astonished to find there was a Gp Capt for each of the pillars of leadership - WTAF?
The number of VSO's is unjustifiable, and has been for years. I remember being at Cranwitz at the height of the Iraq/Afghanistan distractions, and being astonished to find there was a Gp Capt for each of the pillars of leadership - WTAF?
teeteeinghead's point about the RAF still being commanded by a 4* despite a fivefold reduction in size is, IMHO, completely undermined by the reduction in 4* posts over the same period with the disappearance of the C-in-C posts along with the commands (eightfold, by your reckoning: 7 commands plus one CAS, to just one CAS). One was retained as DCINC Air for a while but went a decade ago. So just one RAF 4* now (unless we're also filling UK StratCom, VCDS, CDS or NATO CMC).
30-20-20: if you were to abolish the 1* FCs, would you re-establish the 1* posts in Group HQs which preceded them? Just wondering whether you think the FCs actually do anything useful on behalf of the AOCs... they are not an 'additional' lower level of command, just parts of the Group HQ which happen to be dislocated from High Wycombe.
30-20-20: if you were to abolish the 1* FCs, would you re-establish the 1* posts in Group HQs which preceded them? Just wondering whether you think the FCs actually do anything useful on behalf of the AOCs... they are not an 'additional' lower level of command, just parts of the Group HQ which happen to be dislocated from High Wycombe.
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As most of the armourers have gone, perhaps the Groupies could take on their collective noun.
`A thicket of Groupies` sounds OK doesn't it? But I expect it will remain a `Plethora`
`A thicket of Groupies` sounds OK doesn't it? But I expect it will remain a `Plethora`
I was always amazed at the hordes of SO2's of all three services cutting around KAF/Bastion apparently in HQ roles. There must have been 10 SO2's in a HQ to every lancejack in the field.
Why not cut the group captain posts by 50 % at a stroke ?
A few years ago BA slashed the management headcount by a similar amount, my daughter was one who bailed out.
Despite the outcry, things continued and BA went on to record record profits.
One group captain per two aircraft is a nonsense.
A few years ago BA slashed the management headcount by a similar amount, my daughter was one who bailed out.
Despite the outcry, things continued and BA went on to record record profits.
One group captain per two aircraft is a nonsense.
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On one section that I used to work on...it started with over 300 people back in 1990 with a wing commander, 5 squadron leaders and 15 JOs. When I departed 10 years ago there was one squadron leader, two JOs and a 50% mix of service and civvie with a strength of around 100 people. Still had the same number of secondary duties though (which the civvies didn't do). I had 9 secondary duties when I retired.
